I thought I had read some while back that there could be a way to tell gmail to 
use standard IMAP behavior instead of their approach. I think it was in Google 
Labs or some such. Anyone know about this or given it a try? Maybe if that were 
set, Mail might work better with gmail hosted accounts.

Humm, wonder if there are any other email clients one could try for the Mac? I 
read somewhere that Thundrbird might be an alternative but I bet the a11y in it 
is probably no better than with Firefox right now.

On Oct 28, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:

> Just to clarify, AOL mail is also free and has been for some years. I'm not 
> sure if there is an upper limit on the mailbox size but I currently have 
> about 34,000 messages in my inbox at the moment so whatever the limit is, 
> it's pretty high.
> 
> Full disclosure, I'm currently working with the AOL mail folks to make their 
> products accessible, but it's not perfect yet.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 10/28/13 6:34 PM, Maria From Australia wrote:
>> hi.
>> 
>> I'm still trying to figure out if i'm having problems. I am away from home 
>> and so am using a portable hot spot. Don't really want to turn on all mail. 
>> i wonder if limiting the size of the all mail folder would stop gmail from 
>> downloading everything and help with any sincing problems?
>> any ideas? don't really want to have to pay for email but is there anything 
>> free out there that offers a fair bit of space? and-or is there an 
>> accessible email client for mac? i love apple mail and enjoy gmail so I hope 
>> it can be resolved but it's good to look at alternatives just in case.
>> 
>> Blessings!  Maria and my guide Karly  email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:36 am, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There's always AOL mail. Has supported IMAP support for about a decade.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>>> On 10/25/13 2:26 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
>>>> There are a few:
>>>> 
>>>> iCloud
>>>> outlook.com (they now support imap and you can even bring your domain)
>>>> office365 ($4 per month but a huge deal if you want to pay for email)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:30 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks
>>>> 
>>>> What are some Gmail replacements the list might recommend? What about using
>>>> iCloud mail or Hotmail? Would be interested in some fairly quick and dirty
>>>> workarounds.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:19 AM, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm, guess I'm lucky. I'm not having any problems with gmail and
>>>> mavericks, but this is definitely an email I'll keep in case something
>>>> changes and I need this at a future date.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> May and Prince Noah
>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Nicholas Parsons
>>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks, Teresa, it's great that you're pointing that out for folks. Some
>>>> of it isn't quite 100% accurate, however. From what I've read, for 
>>>> instance,
>>>> All Mail doesn't get placed in your Archive folder exactly. In fact, Mail
>>>> kind of gets rid of folders all together for gmail. Instead, just like 
>>>> gmail
>>>> on the web, there is only one folder per se, and that is All Mail. Messages
>>>> get given labels like inbox or whatever other personal labels you have,
>>>> which act much like folders only different. Rather than me trying to
>>>> explain, interested people are better off reading the following article:
>>>>>> http://tidbits.com/article/14219
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nic
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25/10/2013, at 3:43 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus with
>>>> Gmail and Mail. basically, the "all mail" folder gets placed in the archive
>>>> folder, and it's necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the
>>>> website. Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a
>>>> show-stopper. If you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your labels
>>>> from the Gmail site, and you'd have to set up local rules for filtering
>>>> messages in apple Mail. Also, you can't move Gmail folders in apple mail.
>>>>>> Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I'm on, and I sync my mail
>>>> with my iPod, I'm going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you do,
>>>> do *not* go into the "all mail" folder on your devices if you sync with
>>>> them, because a huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have
>>>> something like twenty thousand messages in my 'all mail" folder.
>>>>>> you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just
>>>> thought I'd clarify things just a tad. I hope it's clarified, at any rate.
>>>> :)
>>>>>> HtH,
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
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