&, if the comments are felt so strongly about the accessibility or lack there
of. Wouldn't it be much better to comment to the FCC & not continue a thread
which has gone on for ever?
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From: Barry Hadder
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 17:16
Subject: Re: FCC seeks comment on Amazons request for waiver of accessibility
requirements
I recall a time not so long ago when i devices first became accessible,
everyone thinking how that was going to level the playing field. It’s funny
how quickly perspectives change.
Now the bar has been raised even higher. The playing field will not be level
until blind people have access to every cheep piece of crap in existence.
I should say that I’m happy with what Apple does and I have no desire to use
anything else. That said however, I certainly think that it would be a very
good think if other companies would realize the importance of opening their
products up to other segments of society and not excluding them. I just don’t
think that this is going to convince them.
I don’t want to completely let Apple off the hook as it seems to me at times
that there are factions under their roof that don’t seem to understand the
importance of accessibility or what Voiceover is even used for. On the other
hand, I think that there is a much larger faction at Apple that definitely gets
it and that the evidence to support this is over whelming. I realize that not
every body can listen to them, but there were some very impressive sessions at
WWDC on the importance of accessibility and how easy it really is to not only
make an app usable to a blind person, but make it a nice experience to use.
I would like to suggest, that just maybe, if a government agency needs to
step in to private inderestry and dictate to a company how their product is
required to function, the result probably won’t be something you are going to
want to use.
I think that we as a blind community have access to more information then at
any other time in history. And, while things can always be better, maybe some
gratitude is in order for the really good things that some companies like Apple
have done.
On Aug 7, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote:
And, let's face it! Not all blind people can afford i devices, nor should
they have to! Having a relatively inexpensive Ereader would really help to
level the playing field!
You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
Fielding
Sent from my Mac Book Pro
richr...@gmail.com
On Aug 7, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
Hi there
Yes, and we all know which "disability" they are talking about, and it's
not the disabled they are talking about either. They are talking about the
blind, but of course, they didn't say so. They might as well have. After all,
most of the other disabilities can read the print. When I heard about this law,
I had a feeling this kind of thing was going to start with the "we can't"
people.
Hey, I guess you guys noticed how they want to solve the accessibility
problem, right! They want to let Apple carrying them along by saying we can all
use iPads etc.!
Regards,
Gigi
Regards,
Gigi
On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
I can't believe the FCC would even consider that. They should say,
absolutely not. These devices must be made accessible, end of story.
Original message:
Hello all:
In follow-up to Karen's post last night, I am posting information
regarding FCC's request for comments on this issue. I hope that many of you
will take the time to comment.
Best,
Donna
Request for Comment on Petition for Class Waiver of Accessibility
Rules for ACS
On August 1, 2013, the Federal Communication Commission (FCC)
released a Public Notice requesting comment on a petition filed by the
Coalition of E-Reader Manufacturers. The Coalition requests that the Commission
waive its rules requiring equipment used for advanced communications services
(ACS) to be accessible by people with disabilities. The Coalition states that,
although e-readers are equipment that consumers can use for ACS, they are
designed primarily for reading.
To distinguish e-readers from tablets and other devices that would
not be subject to the waiver request, the Coalition requests a waiver for
e-readers that have the following features:
(1) they have no LCD screen;
(2) they have no camera;
(3) they are not offered or shipped to consumers with built-in ACS
client applications and their manufacturers do not develop ACS applications for
their respective devices, though the devices may include a browser and social
media applications; and
(4) they are marketed to consumers as reading devices and promotional
material does not tout the capability to access ACS.
Comment Deadline: September 3, 2013
Reply Comment Deadline: September 13, 2013
Links to the Public Notice (including filing instructions):
(PDF)
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.pdf
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.pdf>
(Word)
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.doc
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.doc>
(Text)
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.txt
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.txt>
Link to the Coalition Petition (May 15, 2013):
http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022314526
<http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022314526>
Link to the Letter Supplementing the Coalition Petition (July 17,
2013): http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7520931307
<http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7520931307>
For further information, please contact Eliot Greenwald at (202)
418-2235 oreliot.greenw...@fcc.gov
<mailto:eliot.greenw...@fcc.gov><mailto:eliot.greenw...@fcc.gov
<mailto:eliot.greenw...@fcc.gov>>; or Rosaline Crawford at (202) 418-2075
orrosaline.crawf...@fcc.gov
<mailto:rosaline.crawf...@fcc.gov><mailto:rosaline.crawf...@fcc.gov
<mailto:rosaline.crawf...@fcc.gov>>.
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