I think this is a very good point! Although, I know a lot of sighted people who use Office on the Mac.
You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Jun 21, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: > Makes me wonder if it's not a tactical reasoning for MS to not make Office > work on the Mac? Certainly not in their best interest to have more folks go > to OSX. > > CB > > On 6/21/13 10:39 AM, Richard Ring wrote: >> Forgive for my blasphemy, but doing a find is far easier in Excell for >> windows. It's things like this which cause people either rightfully or >> wrongfully to say that the Mac is not a good productivity tool for blind >> folks. >> >> >> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding >> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >> richr...@gmail.com >> >> On Jun 21, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree that the find command, which works in other applications with the >>> VO keys and f, should work in Numbers as well. Since Apple is busy making >>> changes to iWorks, I hope that's on our wish list for VoiceOver for this to >>> be fixed. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Ann, I will definitely try all this, and it good to hear that Find >>>> works, but seriously are you kidding me, that is a little ridiculous to >>>> have to do all of that for a simple find/search in a document. Again, glad >>>> to hear it works, but there has got to be a much easier way. >>>> On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Brian, >>>>> >>>>> It's perfectly possible to search for content with VO in Numbers. I just >>>>> tried it and it works in Mountain Lion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To find specific content, >>>>> Turn cursor tracking off; >>>>> Press Command-f and enter search term; >>>>> Navigate down and interact with scroll area; >>>>> Interact with table: >>>>> Find desired result; >>>>> Bring mouse to VO cursor and do a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space); >>>>> Stop interacting with table and scroll area; >>>>> Navigate up to next scroll area; >>>>> Interact with scroll area, Layout area, and Layout item; >>>>> You will be on the selected cell; >>>>> Press VO-Shift-T to identify the cell. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> On 20 Jun 2013, at 21:45, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You can get all the memory upgrades you want, but it is still not going >>>>>> to make numbers fully accessible. I have spoken to Apple countless times >>>>>> about Numbers and Accessibility. If you have a large spread sheet, there >>>>>> is no way to do a find or search to jump to a cell, as they broke that >>>>>> function in mountain lion. Apple is aware of this issue, and they told >>>>>> me numbers and pages have not been updated since before Voiceover came >>>>>> out, so it doesn't fully work with Voiceover. Kind of frustrating when >>>>>> you consider productivity. I used to use numbers all the time, and >>>>>> several times a day all of the sudden I couldn't enter any data into the >>>>>> spread sheet. I would have to quit numbers and restart. I have switched >>>>>> over to a database program as numbers got so frustrating to use. >>>>>> On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Chris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in >>>>>>> that row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right >>>>>>> arrow key for a row, or the down arrow key for a column. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a >>>>>>> virtual machine? If so, you'll need more memory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards >>>>>>> <edwardsc2...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have just started using Numbers on my Macbook Pro running Mountain >>>>>>>> Lion and, so far, have two questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple >>>>>>>> Store says you have to click on the row number or column letter. I >>>>>>>> cannot find a keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of >>>>>>>> navigating to these points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure >>>>>>>> there must be a solution so please can someone tell me what it is? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep >>>>>>>> getting "busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and >>>>>>>> on one occasion even this solution did not work. I seem to remember >>>>>>>> someone saying that increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB >>>>>>>> so would it be worth doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than >>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris Edwards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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