On 2013-03-24, at 12:11 AM, anita <silky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Q:  How do I switch between commands help and getting started?

A:  When you press VO-h, you simply arrow through the choices and press return 
on the one you wish.

> Q:  Is there any way to hide the getting started option?

A:  If you're asking to hide it from within the menu items, then no.  If you 
simply wish to close the guide because you're done with it, then press cmd-q to 
Quit it.

Q:  How is verbosity changed, or does this not apply to MacBookPros?

A:  You can change it using this method.  Use the VO Utility by pressing VO-f8 
or fn-VO-f8.  Interact (VO-shift-down arrow) with the Categories table, select 
the Verbosity option, stop interacting (VO-shift-up arrow) with the Categories 
table, then navigate through your verbosity options.

Later...

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <jpanar...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: MacBook Inquiries.
> 
> 
>  Start with VO-h.  That is the main help menu and contains all of the ways to 
> get help, including commands help and the getting started guide.  It is the 
> best place to start.
> 
>   Adding additional languages for VoiceOver is done through the VoiceOver 
> Utility under the Speech category in the Voices tab.  You need to select the, 
> Custom, from the default voice popup button and then use the table that will 
> next be presented to choose the other voices you desire.  Check the boxes of 
> the ones you want.  There is a, play, button to the right for samping voices. 
>  When you have made your selections, choose the, OK, button, to download the 
> voices.  Be aware that some of the voices are large, so they might take some 
> time to download.
> 
>  Once you have them, you can choose them from the popup button or, as an 
> easier alternative, you can use control-option-command-right or left arrow 
> until you get to, Efault Voice.  Then use control-option-command-up or down 
> arrow to change the voice.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 23, 2013, at 10:54 PM, "anita" <silky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'd like to change both if possible. Are there other ways of accessing more 
>> detailed VO support from the product directly? Tried pressing VO+f8, to get 
>> in to VO specific settings, but this didn't work. Am I missing a step?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <jpanar...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: MacBook Inquiries.
>> 
>> 
>>>  You can hit the escape key to get out of the getting started tutorial. If 
>>> that doesn't work, try the letter v key.
>>> 
>>>  Are you talking switching VoiceOver languages or the keyboard language?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2013, at 9:32 PM, "anita" <silky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> As think I stated in another message, my MacBook Pro is in operation: just 
>>>> not sure how to get past the getting started tutorial. How much is that 
>>>> paid utility for use in Windows you mentioned? How do I change the 
>>>> languages in VO?
>>>> Anita
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris H" <christopher...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook Inquiries.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Anita
>>>>> Windows on mac is discussed quite a lot on this and other lists.
>>>>> While it is possible to run Windows on mac, the easiest and truly 
>>>>> accessible way to do this is with a paid product called Vmware Fusion.
>>>>> That's all I will say for now until you get your mac up and running. I'm 
>>>>> only trying to save confusion here, and hopefully not being more a 
>>>>> hindrance than a help.
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>>>> E-mail and Facebook:
>>>>> challswor...@sky.com
>>>>> Skype:
>>>>> chrishallsworth7266
>>>>> Twitter:
>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/@christopherh40
>>>>> Find my blog at
>>>>> challsworth2.wordpress.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/03/2013 13:52, anita wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>  Will I be able to use Windows too on my Macbook Pro. I don't
>>>>>> remember if discussion of that topic was mentioned on here yesterday.
>>>>>> Perhaps it was another list.
>>>>>>  Anita
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris H" <christopher...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook Inquiries.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Anita
>>>>>>> then it's the Macbook Pro with non-retina display. This is the only
>>>>>>> choice now if you want one with an optical drive built in.
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>>>>>> E-mail and Facebook:
>>>>>>> challswor...@sky.com
>>>>>>> Skype:
>>>>>>> chrishallsworth7266
>>>>>>> Twitter:
>>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/@christopherh40
>>>>>>> Find my blog at
>>>>>>> challsworth2.wordpress.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22/03/2013 21:15, anita wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>>   I'm getting a MacBook, but am not sure how to choose the best
>>>>>>>> one. Having a CD slot is essential.  This may limit my
>>>>>>>> selections/choices, buthaving a laptop is what I want, and just wanna
>>>>>>>> get the most for my money.
>>>>>>>>   Thanks for any info.
>>>>>>>>   Anita
>>>>>>>> 
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