Hi, Similar to what Cheryl is saying here, if it is saying HTML Content, I'm guessing that it is attempting to open the PDF from within Safari. Usually, Preview handles this fine as well. Not as much control but if the PDF is properly setup, then it is read properly from within Safari. Exceptions to this occur when Adobe Reader takes over the PDF reading within Safari. As mentioned numerous times in the Mac environment, Adobe Reader is not yet accessible, thus whether you access the PDF from within Safari or from Adobe Reader itself, you will not be able to read any of the content. The other problem would occur if the PDF document is simply a copy or scan of a document. In these cases, it doesn't look any different to the sighted user but to a screen reader, it is useless. You need to use some sort of OCR app to make it readable by VO. Also, if it is a copy or scanned image of a document, no PDF reader, Preview, Skim or anything similar will not be able to do anything with it, no matter how good of a PDF reader it is.
If you have a link to the item you're trying to read or if it is a downloaded document, you're welcome to send it to me off-list and I'll do my best to figure out what's going on for you. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2013-02-21, at 6:43 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote: > Empty html content? Is this a pdf file on your computer or something in > safari you are trying to read? Maybe this is a different kind of file and I'm > showing my ignorance, but when I open a pdf file I see the text and/or the > text area is blank. I don't usually see html content but I suppose there are > pdf files that would do this? > > If this is in safari, that's a whole different discussion. > > -- > Cheryl > > May the words of my mouth > and the meditation of my heart > be acceptable to You, Lord, > my rock and my Redeemer. > (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) > > > > On Feb 21, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've done all this, and it just sits there and says "empty html content," >> and in the end, I just get frustrated and close the page, considering the >> fact that it never goes anywhere, just sits there and says the same thing, >> so have no idea as to what to do at this point. >> On Feb 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> I agree with your Hmmm. I played with things some more by opening a PDF >>> document with QuickLook and did find it less than useful. I'm not sure why >>> you're getting a menu when using your arrow keys. For me, if I simply use >>> arrow keys without the VO keys, then it changes pages within the PDF >>> document. If I interact with the text area, then I can either use VO-keys >>> with the arrow keys, just the arrow keys or if I turn on QuickNav, it works >>> just fine as well. There is no lag and no hesitation. It is no different >>> than reading that same page from within TextEdit. >>> >>> My MBP has 8 GB of RAM and is a 2.4 GHz Quad Core I7 from late 2011. It is >>> quick but by no means the top of the line model nowadays. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On 2013-02-20, at 10:55 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm... I'm using Mountain Lion, and all that happens when I arrow in the >>>> text is the share menu opens. I can vo-arrow, but that's no better than >>>> Quicklook. I did hit cmd-2 to enter single page mode as you suggested, and >>>> I did interact with the text. >>>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I navigate to the pdf wherever it is located on my computer, then open >>>>> it. My default app for PDFs is Preview so it opens Preview. I then >>>>> press cmd-2 if I've not already done so in an earlier read of the PDF >>>>> which puts it into Single-page mode. I can then navigate with VO-right >>>>> arrow to the text area and either let it read the entire page or Interact >>>>> with the text area then read word by word, line by line or whatever VO >>>>> method I use in any other app. I do not use QuickNav at all in this >>>>> process. QuickLook is not Preview, they are separate entities. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-02-20, at 10:28 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How do you read line by line? I can enable quick nav and rotor to lines, >>>>>> but that is not perfect and can be laggy. Up and down arrows just move >>>>>> to the previous or next item and open it in quicklook, which I >>>>>> understand preview to be. Am I missing an app others are using? >>>>>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Preview usually works just great for me, line by line or whatever >>>>>>> method I choose. I do, however, find it much easier to use in >>>>>>> Single-page mode which you can enter by pressing cmd-2 in ML. I use it >>>>>>> for multi-page curriculum guides, various manuals and much, much more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-02-20, at 12:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger <apple-engl...@fleger.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would you really say Preview works? Please interact with the text area >>>>>>>> and try to navigate or read line by line. Preview for me is just a >>>>>>>> work around at the moment and we should let Apple know this. >>>>>>>> Jürgen >>>>>>>> Am 20.02.2013 um 03:55 schrieb Nektarios Mallas <nmal...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi there. >>>>>>>>> I am sure you already know this, but why don't you just use preview >>>>>>>>> to read pdf files? >>>>>>>>> It is much easier and it works. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nektarios. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've just downloaded a program I found out when doing a google >>>>>>>>>> search called Skim, that's supposed to read pdf files, however when >>>>>>>>>> I try to open one, it just says "pluggin process," and sits there >>>>>>>>>> like I never did anything extra. >>>>>>>>>> Do I need to have the aplication running in the background, or >>>>>>>>>> should it launch automaticly? 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