I agree. While I don't use the iBook Store much, I use the App Store all the 
time. Once I got used to the new layout, I had no problems at all, and still 
don't. Yes, I preferred the old layout, but one thing we have to remember is 
that the iOS platform is geared toward being visually pleasing and easy to use. 
Putting accessibility on that should not limit Apple. That is, if it sells more 
devices and looks better to set things up the way they have done in iOS6, and 
if that new interface can be made totally accessible, then they have every 
right to make the change. Just because it is different, or not as easy to use 
at first glance, does not make it worse. For instance, one thing people forget 
to use in the new App Store is heading navigation, which lets you flick between 
the app and the selected information. You can also touch the left-most tab on 
the bottom, flick left once, and there's your adjustable picker of search 
results. Does Apple make mistakes? Yes, and plenty of them, but they sell 
millions of units and are trying to please a huge range of users. Do they make 
interfaces that are accessible but horrible to use? Yes (Garageband, for 
instance - you can use it, but not efficiently). Overall, though, they do their 
best, they have an amazing accessibility department, and, remember, Voiceover 
is still younger than most of the screen readers out there, yet it can easily 
compete with any of them.
On Feb 16, 2013, at 12:28 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I must say, I'm at a total loss about iBooks and the app store.  These seem 
> to be working fine for me on all my IOS devices.  I remember a few months 
> back, when they first changed the app store there was accessible issues.  I 
> think they fixed that in a month or less.  And I've never had any problems 
> using the table index sliders.  Just to be clear, I'm not saying that you are 
> not indeed having these issues.  I'm just wondering, could it be user error?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> 
>> No need to make excuses for Apple.  The IBooks store and the App Store have 
>> become significantly less accessible with the changing IOS versions.  This 
>> doesn't have to happen and is a bad sign.  In IBooks, there are horizontal 
>> rows of titles and at either end of those rows oone encounters a slider or 
>> something that when barely touched will shift the titles listings so that a 
>> blind user has a hell of a time determining what the list actually contains.
>> 
>> The same slider in the contacts list on the IPhone works well because it 
>> somehow paces itself with the user's scrolling finger and is very usable.
>> 
>> The App Store has these screen shots and a tiny place to flick up or 
>> whatever that in using the I-devices since 2010, I have not been able to 
>> master.  The earlier iteration of the app store's accessibility worked so 
>> well that it was easy to read about the apps, move through a list and so on. 
>>  I have barely used either the app store or IBooks store since these 
>> limitations became part of the IOS.
>> 
>> These changes make it nearly impossible for a new blind user to get a 
>> confident sense of the potential for independent access that we got only a 
>> few IOS upgrades ago.  This would be very off putting to me if I had 
>> acquired my I-device recently.
>> 
>> Apple does not have to model its screen reader and access after the 
>> seriously broken JAWS example.  I use JAWS at work and have never 
>> experienced a computer program so poorly equipped to do a job.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Cheree Heppe
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone 4S
>> 
>> On 15/02/2013, at 15:50, "Blake Sinnett" <frequency...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I would have to agree. Apple has lost some of their magic ever since the 
>> middle of last year. Things just seem to be breaking a little too often. 
>> iCloud, bugs in iOS 6, the maps fiasco... Who knows what'll happen next. Of 
>> course Tim's just taken over, so maybe after a while things'll smooth out. 
>> The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens.
>> 
>> Blake
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <jshandr...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:42 AM
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: OT: iOS 6 Disappointment!
>> 
>>> OT: iOS 6 disappointment!
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else feeling a little sad about the iOS eco-system since release 
>>> in October. Don't get me wrong, there will always be issues. However Apple 
>>> has had so many issues.
>>> First, you had the complete redesign of iBooks,  App, iTunes store. In the 
>>> first release the blind community lost a lot of access, because we didn't 
>>> even have the ability to see ratings with the new software.
>>> Second, you had the App store crashing when you would go into the search 
>>> area. This happened to everyone, not just our community.
>>> thirdly, who can forget the map debacle.
>>> You have devices going into recovery mode when you do a reset.
>>> The 6. 1 update you now have exchange issue. The extreme 4s battery issue, 
>>> and now this morning people who use institutional accounts like at schools. 
>>> Individuals can bypass the no downloading option.
>>> I just find this so sad. apple used to pay such close attention to 
>>> stability, clean UI, and of course accessibility. I still love my Apple 
>>> products, and hope things change under Jony Ive. Is anyone else feeling 
>>> slightly let down? This is just a short list, I know you could point out 
>>> more. I just pointed out a few which never should have happened!
>>> 
>>> J.P.
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