You really must be dreaming! The big cable companies will only react if it starts to hurt their profits. So maybe a big class action lawsuite against the biggest ones out there supported by both ACB and NFB that goes for a monitary settlement large enough to hurt those companies and provide the money required to be sure that any blind person in the U. S. can have equal access to cable tv might make them change their tune.

Comcast knows that they are not following the regulations, but they also know they have a lot more money to fight with than a blind person requesting the service.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewel...@shellworld.net>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it


The same energy the Mice is using to  circulate stolen movies and the same
energy these folks are using to circulate stolen content could  be used to
insure that information gets circulated.
The laws are new, have you any idea how many cable providers and satellites
companies would jump if people started calling and emailing, informing them
of the regulation and asking for what they are entitled to have as a
paying customer?
Most  stuff is done because of ignorance industry wise.  You must
demonstrate that you are a market for those providing  content to
that market...and many benefit from audio descriptions, just like many
benefit from audio books or voice over or  etc.
No matter what your income level or place in society you are a consumer.
they will take you seriously not because they should  to feel good, but
because you are a consumer...when more of you start acting like one that
is.
You pay their wages, buy their products and keep them functioning...never
mind your score on an eye chart.

I appreciate   that you understand the  difference.
Still, as with many groups in the human family, some are very invested in the victim
mentality.  I deserve to cheat on my wife / husband or to have an e-book
without copyright protection, or to get  stolen downloads because my eyes
work differently.
Lots of people do it, my skin, my social status, my use of or non-use of
the language. the world owes me just because, I choose to think I got a
bad hand.
Those freedom seekers are distorting freedom.
and  as Mark twain put it, do not say the world owes you anything...it was
here first.


On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:

My view on it is, that if I can get it to work, then I will not look back. The illegal ways don't have all the content anyways, I know for sure that not all Star Trek, Next Generation episodes are available. So, if I can figure out how to take the most advantage out of the FCC's way of doing it, then I certainly will. I think there will always be those who will pirate, so that they can take the content everywhere, and use it in any way. But I think that if there was more abundant info on how to get the TV set up with the audio description, and how to do it with as many TVs as possible, mine being a Visio for instance, I think many will switch to that method, as that will mean that they can sit there with the family and all will be able to enjoy the same content. But, as twith the sited people, there will always be those freedom seekers who want to do everything with all the content they can, no matter how little the content. On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

depending on where you are, the source of your programming, your cable provider or satellites provider is required to make that work for you.
In fact you can file an FCC complaint now if they do not.
Additionally, efforts going on to make those menus work easily will not get much support if people are just going to circulate avenues to stolen property.
And you wonder why the author's guild fears making books work?
What is keeping programs with audio descriptions from getting sponsorship the way captioning does? The attitude that those getting the description do not deserve to be treated like the rest of the consumer marketplace. They can and will just steal it and circulate it as if this is perfectly fine. You cannot have it both ways, either you deserve a respected place at the audience market table regardless of how differently you view that table, or you deserve the stolen crumbs from that table.






On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:

Thanks for that. If I can figure out how the menus on my TV work, I will certainly use what the FCC has provided. On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

you bet it really matters.
And yes they do.
As of July 2012, all five broadcast networks and the same cable networks must provide audio described content, and they are doing i, every single week. all television stations in the top 25 markets stateside must provide the content as well...with additional markets joining each year. why should anyone invest in population who is simply going to steal property. cable providers and satellites providers must insure that you can access the described content. I do not have the link to post now, but program listings and details are on the ACB website.
frankly I find this exclusionary and distasteful.
consumers who happen to score differently on an eye chart, must be segregated to stolen property on the Internet Never mind that Hollywood films and television shows air each week with described content. are you so lacking in personal dignity that you feel stolen property is all you deserve?
Especially since the entire thing could be done legally?
Is to some extent already.
No one is going to value you if you do not value yourselves, document that there is a market, use what the FCC is doing to enhance the ability for everyone to enjoy television as they choose.


Karen

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:

Hmm. Does it really matter? No one else seems to provide this, do they? On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

ahem,
they do have the legal right to run this service with this content?
Karen

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Are their any UK channels? Do you think we could have an IOS App so that we can watch this service anywhere we go and we're not tied to the computer? I like this service.

Kawal.

On 20 Jan 2013, at 07:51 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:

I do like this service. Its pretty good, I can finally watch sci-fi, and therefore can watch star trek! :) On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,
I have been given permission to post about this from another list. This is a great service.
Check it out and please spread the word.
Blindy.tv
Have you ever wanted to watch TV with audio description but can't get the track on your tv? Well, now you can...sort of. Have a look at this.
http://www.blindy.tv
This project was created so that everyone could watch TV episodes with audio description. Every show (except the brain channel) has described content. You can switch channels just like with an actual TV. So far, their are 5 channels. Comedy, Drama, Si-fi, Brain and ETC. More may be added if needed. Each show is either 30 or 60 minutes long. After the show their are commercials (better than on TV, I can promise you that), a news segment or comedy skit, and some instrumental music at the top and bottom of each hour. To access this place, you can do one of two things: You can either go to the website linked above and used the web players, or, if you'd rather listen in your media player of choice, place this link into it. This will load all channels, and you can use the next and previous controls to move through the different channels.
http://blindy.tv/all.m3u
Please give any suggestions or criticisms you have. Feedback is always welcome. If you like the service, let us know. If you do not, tell us what we could do to fix it up. Please spread the word if you like it.
Enjoy!

Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

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