The same energy the Mice is using to circulate stolen movies and the same energy these folks are using to circulate stolen content could be used to insure that information gets circulated. The laws are new, have you any idea how many cable providers and satellites companies would jump if people started calling and emailing, informing them of the regulation and asking for what they are entitled to have as a paying customer? Most stuff is done because of ignorance industry wise. You must demonstrate that you are a market for those providing content to that market...and many benefit from audio descriptions, just like many benefit from audio books or voice over or etc. No matter what your income level or place in society you are a consumer. they will take you seriously not because they should to feel good, but because you are a consumer...when more of you start acting like one that is. You pay their wages, buy their products and keep them functioning...never mind your score on an eye chart.

I appreciate   that you understand the  difference.
Still, as with many groups in the human family, some are very invested in the victim mentality. I deserve to cheat on my wife / husband or to have an e-book without copyright protection, or to get stolen downloads because my eyes work differently. Lots of people do it, my skin, my social status, my use of or non-use of the language. the world owes me just because, I choose to think I got a bad hand.
Those freedom seekers are distorting freedom.
and as Mark twain put it, do not say the world owes you anything...it was here first.


On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:

My view on it is, that if I can get it to work, then I will not look back. The 
illegal ways don't have all the content anyways, I know for sure that not all 
Star Trek, Next Generation episodes are available. So, if I can figure out how 
to take the most advantage out of the FCC's way of doing it, then I certainly 
will. I think there will always be those who will pirate, so that they can take 
the content everywhere, and use it in any way. But I think that if there was 
more abundant info on how to get the TV set up with the audio description, and 
how to do it with as many TVs as possible, mine being a Visio for instance, I 
think many will switch to that method, as that will mean that they can sit 
there with the family and all will be able to enjoy the same content. But, as 
twith the sited people, there will always be those freedom seekers who want to 
do everything with all the content they can, no matter how little the content.
On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

depending on where you are, the source of your programming, your cable provider 
or satellites provider is required to make that work for you.
In fact you can file an FCC complaint now if they do not.
Additionally, efforts going on to make those menus work easily will not get 
much support if people are just going to circulate avenues  to stolen property.
And you wonder why the author's guild fears making books work?
What is keeping programs with audio descriptions from getting sponsorship the 
way captioning does?
The attitude that those getting the description do not deserve to be treated 
like the rest of the consumer marketplace.
They can and will just steal it and circulate it as if this is perfectly fine.
You cannot have it both ways, either you deserve a respected place at the 
audience market table regardless of how differently you view that table, or you 
deserve the stolen crumbs  from that table.






On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:

Thanks for that. If I can figure out how the menus on my TV work, I will 
certainly use what the FCC has provided.
On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

you bet it really matters.
And yes they do.
As of July 2012, all five broadcast networks and the same cable networks must 
provide audio described content, and they are doing i, every single week.
all television stations in the top 25 markets stateside must provide the 
content as well...with  additional markets  joining each year.
why  should anyone invest in population who is simply going to steal property.
cable providers and satellites providers must insure that you can access the 
described content.
I do not have the link to post now, but program listings and details are on the 
ACB website.
frankly I find this exclusionary and distasteful.
consumers who happen to score differently on an eye chart, must be segregated 
to stolen property on the Internet Never mind that Hollywood films and 
television shows air each week with  described content.
are you so lacking in personal dignity that you feel stolen property is all you 
deserve?
Especially since the entire thing could be done legally?
Is to some extent already.
No one is going to value you if you do not value yourselves, document that 
there is a market, use what the FCC is doing to enhance the ability for 
everyone to enjoy television as they choose.


Karen

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:

Hmm. Does it really matter? No one else seems to provide this, do they?
On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

ahem,
they do have the legal right to run this service with this content?
Karen

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Are their any UK channels?  Do you think we could have an IOS App so that we 
can watch this service anywhere we go and we're not tied to the computer?  I 
like this service.

Kawal.

On 20 Jan 2013, at 07:51 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:

I do like this service. Its pretty good, I can finally watch sci-fi, and 
therefore can watch star trek! :)
On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,
I have been given permission to post about this from another list. This is a 
great service.
Check it out and please spread the word.
Blindy.tv
Have you ever wanted to watch TV with audio description but can't get the track 
on your tv? Well, now you can...sort of. Have a look at this.
http://www.blindy.tv
This project was created so that everyone could watch TV episodes with audio 
description. Every show (except the brain channel) has described content. You 
can switch channels just like with an actual TV. So far,
their are 5 channels. Comedy, Drama, Si-fi, Brain and ETC. More may be added if 
needed. Each show is either 30 or 60 minutes long. After the show their are 
commercials (better than on TV, I can promise you that), a news segment or 
comedy skit, and some instrumental music at the top and bottom of each hour.
To access this place, you can do one of two things: You can either go to the 
website linked above and used the web players, or, if you'd rather listen in 
your media player of choice, place this link into it.
This will load all channels, and you can use the next and previous controls to 
move through the different channels.
http://blindy.tv/all.m3u
Please give any suggestions or criticisms you have. Feedback is always welcome. 
If you like the service, let us know. If you do not, tell us  what we could do 
to fix it up. Please spread the word if you like it.
Enjoy!

Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

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