Never said it was stealing, just that breaking the encryption, while
trivial, is not legal and you have to do that in order to exercise your
fair use rights to copy the stuff to another device, convert it, strip
out just the audio etc. In other words, merely picking the lock is
illegal even if you have rights to what's behind it. Pretty sneaky and
the lawmakers swallowed it hook line and sinker. Here is some
interesting bits from where RealNetworks provided software to copy your
DVD to a hard drive, was sued and lost:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealNetworks,_Inc._v._DVD_Copy_Control_Association,_Inc.
CB
On 12/30/12 12:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Fair enough, Chris, but while using VLC or handbrake for personal use
may not make the powers that be happy, it hardly constitutes stealing.
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 29, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com
<mailto:cblo...@aol.com>> wrote:
This topic pops up every so often on this list and basically (beyond
those who just don't care about being legal) it comes down to the US
DMCA law or Digital Millennium Copyright Act. On previous media you
had Fair Use rights to, say, transfer that fancy new CD to a tape so
you could play it in that still working Sony Walkman. So what the
fine folks did this time is to not only encrypt the new hot DVD
format but lobbied to make mere breaking of the 'protection' a
criminal offense. In other words the quite handy Fair Use rights you
used to have got stomped on by Congress. This is what makes it
confusing. Other countries with more sanity have recognized that
people just might want to make a backup, convert the format or
otherwise transfer the bits they bought to another medium. In the US
though you're out of luck trying to do anything of the sort in a
legal manner. Well, there is one legal manner called the "analog
loophole" where you could aim a video camera and mic at a TV screen
to make a recording of the DVD you paid for with real cash money. You
would not have defeated the copy protection and then you could
exercise your fair use rights. Nobody ever does this and the bag of
hurt known as BlueRay made sure to fix that as well by ensuring
everything is encrypted all the way to the display device, so no
grabbing a clean feed from your player and dumping it to your hard
drive, but I digress. Anyway, now you know why apps like RipIt from
the little app factory have to skirt the issue by being based out of
Australia. At bit of recent news about renewal of the non-expemtion
for circumvention in the DMCA by Library of Congress in October:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121025/15065220831/dmca-exemptions-announced-exemption-dvd-ripping-rejected.shtml
You can Google the rest.
CB
On 12/29/12 8:29 PM, Gerry Cook wrote:
Hi try fairmount app its free well it works for dvd decripting with
dvd remaster.
cheers gerry have a great day
skype: gerry.cook1
email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:gerryc...@optusnet.com.au>
On Dec 30, 2012, at 10:45 AM, "Kliphton" <kliph...@gmail.com
<mailto:kliph...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So, what apps do people use to remove copyright protection from
DVD’s so it can be ripped? I heard VLC can do this, but never knew
how to do it.
Kliphton Senior
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