Yes, this is the thing I've noticed: no automatic interraction. The other bugs discussed, I'm not enough of a user to be aware of, but this one is very noticeable, and I'm surprised it exists. It's almost like it's a feature that's been turned off or something. I thought about going through the VO utility to make sure that wasn't the case: something like automatically interract with web content, but I don't think there is suchan option. I think that when time permits, I, too, will write to apple accessibility about that bug because it's the only one I understand enough to write about. Over all, though, I still think ML is way better than lion ever was, at least on my system.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8 The thing that disappoints me is that VoiceOver still doesn't automatically interact with html content when loading a web page like it did in Lion. It just doesn't feel as nice and seamless as it used to feel. I'll keep writing to apple but man, it would seem like the simplest of tries with VoiceOver by the development staff would show this. Bummer! Veronica Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 On 9/20/2012 8:44 PM, Phil Halton wrote: > It came off pretty darn sarcastic to my ears as well Ray. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ray Foret Jr <mailto:rfore...@att.net> > *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:56 PM > *Subject:* Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8 > > Brian, now look, I do understand your frustrations; but, frankly, > your personal attack upon me is entirely unwarranted. I was truly > only trying to help. Perhaps you're just having a sucky day; I > don't know. We're all subject to those days now and again; but, if > you are going to bite a hand that's only trying to give helpful > advice, then, my friend, perhaps it's high time you stepped away > from your computer for a bit and did something else to cool off. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com > <mailto:blindga...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Typical of this list, some guy like this Ray offering a useless >> response to my constructive criticism. Anytime you say anything >> negative even like I did in a professional way, you get a guy like >> this Ray not adding to the conversation. I don't think I am out of >> line expecting improvements to Voiceover, I just voiced my opinion, >> and here comes this Ray right off the bat. I guess you are only >> allowed to praise Apple on this board. Ray, I would love to be a >> developer and help Apple in anyway that I can, unfortunately, I have a >> very limited knowledge when it comes to programming and what I am sure >> is some very advanced design work. >> >> On Sep 20, 4:46 pm, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com >> <http://gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I know that we are not Apple's main focus group, but two updates to >>> 10.8 and still not one improvement to Voiceover? There are some >>> pretty >>> basic fixable things, that I am very disappointed that Apple has not >>> addressed in either update. And before I get blasted for posting >>> anything negative on this board about Apple, yes, I have emailed >>> Apple >>> Accessibility, and yes, I have used a Mac for a long time. The one >>> primary thing that seems like a quick fix would be getting Web spots >>> to work properly in safari. I am still stunned that you have to now >>> click VO command right bracket to go left or up a page, and VO >>> command >>> left bracket to go right or down a page. Anyone with the >>> slightest bit >>> of logic would have realized that this is reversed. >>> >>> Numbers is still very difficult to use if you have a big spreadsheet >>> as there is no way to search for a certain cell in a large document. >>> While the command to do this in Lion was bizarre at least it worked >>> most of the time. Calling Apple Accessibility, I find it hilarious >>> that the people at the specialized Voiceover department know nothing >>> about numbers, and the numbers department know nothing about >>> Voiceover. Pretty hilarious. >>> >>> QuickNav is still unbelievably buggy. Several times a day QuickNav >>> just stops working, and I have to toggle VO off and on to get it to >>> start working again. >>> >>> Just wanted to name a few and mention it would be nice to >>> actually see >>> a Voiceover improvement in an update to the operating system. >>> Otherwise, what is the point of me taking the time to contact Apple >>> Accessibility. They have gotten back to me every time which is very >>> nice of them, but lets start getting some of these issues >>> implemented. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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