I discovered the most reliable way is to not use quick nav, but to rather press 
right arrow by itself to expand messages, and left arrow by itself to collapse 
messages.

VO blackslash for me does not work.

Harry

On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:02 AM, Shen <goalb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Are you pressing VO-Backslash on the Conversation column?
> I am doing the same here and have no problems expanding or collapsing 
> conversations.
> 
> On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Tim,
>> 
>> i didn't notice a difference with the slider set to 100 percent, but what I 
>> did was to go into mail and say "expand all conversations," and at the 
>> moment that is making life easier.  At least I don't have to fight with it 
>> to expand and collapse messages.  I hope this helps someone else who may be 
>> struggling.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2012, at 8:02 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Even with the Preview pane gone, VO will read a couple lines of your 
>>> message due to the Conversation view.  I simply press enter/return on the 
>>> message to open it and cmd-w to close the conversation.
>>> 
>>> To get rid of the Preview pane, you need to move the Vertical Slider just 
>>> to the right of the Message Content area.  It needs to be moved all the way 
>>> to the right so that VO reads 100% and sometimes it will say closed 
>>> disclosure item.  I previously posted that simply moving it would do the 
>>> trick in ML but experienced a few frustrations with that method last 
>>> evening on my iMac.  The other method is double-clicking on this Vertical 
>>> Slider, it must be the physical mouse click, not the virtual one through 
>>> VO.  I will investigate a little further to try to find a more reliable and 
>>> efficient way of doing it with VO.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-07-25, at 11:53 PM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> How do you close the preview pane?  That could be an interesting way to go 
>>>> about it, but I also rather like seeing a preview of the message before I 
>>>> read it.
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> When I use Mail, I have the preview pane completely closed so for me to 
>>>>> open messages individually or a whole thread, I use Command-O to open a 
>>>>> new window and Command-W to close and return me to the message list.  I 
>>>>> did this in Lion and I still do it in Mountain Lion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just noticed that when expanding mail messages with VO-space bar, 
>>>>>> sometimes the focus is in the wrong place, apparently, and it opens up 
>>>>>> the "sort by menu" where you are able to sort by attachments, date, 
>>>>>> from, etc.  So far, my only complaint is that they took the expand mail 
>>>>>> messages keystroke away for VoiceOver; I find this new one to be a bit 
>>>>>> awkward.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Other than that, it's really pretty nice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Harry
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