You are a sweetie. Thanks for trying. Mel On Jul 22, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hello Mel, > > This web site is clearly not designed with accessibility in mind. When I > couldn't find a link name that appeared to be associated with a download or > media player I tried to check the link images. The seventh item on the links > menu of the web rotor, which has a name that starts with "Pic" and then > number for a July 16, 2012 calendar date, followed by a few more numbers and > a "jpg" extension turned out to be to a YouTube video with the URL: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSr_EGOFYrU&feature=youtu.be > I don't know whether you can play this on your Mac, depending on your > settings. I do have Adobe flash enabled on my Mac for those times when I have > to find something where there's flash. However, this video appears to > available in HTML5, which means that it will play on iOS devices and systems > without flash. > > The name of the YouTube page is: "Hangout with Deepak, Paulo Coehlo, Vicente > Fox, Lisa Ling, Fran Drescher, Eric Handler, and more!" > > If you have an iOS device of any sort, you can go to the YouTube app and type > in "Hangout with Deepak" into the search box to get this and play it in a > totally accessible manner! > > I don't know how you're supposed to download this, and I didn't read anything > on that web page about downloading a YouTube video. There is a site called > dirpy.com that lets you perform audio and video downloads of YouTube videos, > and it works reliably and accessibly. But these functions don't seem to be > working today. When I visit the URL: > http://dirpy.com/ > there is a message: "We are looking at the YouTube issue and will have an > update as soon as possible. Thank you." Normally, I could just paste in the > URL from the YouTube address bar into the text box and press return to get a > page of with the matching video and download options. Today, doing that > presents me with a page of random YouTube links. Typing in the search term > "Hangout with Deepak, Paulo Coehlo, Vicente Fox, Lisa Ling, Fran Drescher, > Eric Handler, and more!" and pressing return does give me a page with two > links -- one to the actual video and another to a short preview video that > was put out to announce the event, but none of the controls that let you > select the audio or video format you want to download appear today. I guess > this is part of the "YouTube issue" that they are looking into. > > By the way, you'll only be able to do the conversion if you have Adobe Flash > player support on your Mac, which now has to be explicitly downloaded. It > doesn't come as part of the Mac computer systems any more, and it really was > a source of performance problems on some machines, as well as being an > accessibility sore. > > If you want to read more details about how to use the Dirpy site (assuming > they fix the YouTube access issue, and you can play Flash), check my forum > post at the Mail Archive site: > • Re: accessible youtube to mp3 converter > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg58313.html > Really the only warning is that the downloads (when this is working) happen > really fast after you make your selections and with no alerts, so you should > just check your Downloads folder. However, if you read down the thread (with > Control-n), you'll find a post from someone who got the mp3 download working, > but wanted the video download as well, and my response goes through a > step-by-step description of the controls. It turns out that the second time > the user tried it, using the same steps as before, everything worked for the > video download as well, so my reply was not really needed, but if you want to > read a detailed description about the layout of the "Record Video" and > "Record Audio" controls for the dirpy.com site, pressing control-n twice > after opening the link I gave above, will navigate to first the question post > about video and my response. > > HTH. If it's any consolation, I don't understand that website, either. > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jul 22, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Mary Scott wrote: > >> >> >> I just don't understand this website. I have not been able to locate a >> download link. MelHi, Here is the url >> http://www.chopracentermeditation.com/bestsellers/ProgramPage.aspx?bookid=169&id=7219 >> On Jul 22, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hello Mel, >>> >>> First, let me answer what I think is your question, and also give the URL >>> of what I believe is the web page you are trying to use. Guessing from the >>> title "21-day Meditation Challenge" and the address of chopra.com, I did a >>> Google search and found this promos page with an MP3 download: >>> http://promos.chopra.com/cdcollections/ >>> I've retitled the subject of this post. If this is not the page that you >>> are using, please supply the actual URL. You can copy it by using the >>> Command-L shortcut to move to the address bar of your Safari browser, then >>> use Command-C to copy. If you switch to your mail application (e.g. with >>> Command-Tab), you can paste the URL of the web page you are asking about >>> with Command-V. >>> >>> Initially you asked: >>>>>>>>> I want help figuring out how to play an audio clip from this website. >>>>>>>>> From:21-Day Meditation Challenge >>>>>>>>> <meditationchalle...@chopra.com> I can't find the play button. >>>>>>>>> My sighted friend has no problem. Any help is appreciated. >>> The relevant section of the web page contained the instructions >>> <begin quote> >>> Please click the play button to stream the audio. >>> If you'd like to download the MP3, the instructions are as follows: >>> STEP 1: right-click on this download link >>> STEP 2: (for PCs) after right-clicking , choose " save target as " and save >>> to your computer. >>> STEP 2: (for MACs) after right-clicking, choose "save link as" and save to >>> your computer. >>> <end quote> >>> >>> OK. The first answer on how to play the audio on that page. >>> 1. Navigate to the download link. You can bring up your web rotor (VO-U) >>> and set it to "Links" (by simultaneously pressing your up and left arrow >>> keys). Then arrow down to "this download link" in the links menu and press >>> return. You can alternatively use item chooser menu (VO-I) to navigate to >>> "this download link". I typed "d o w" and then arrowed down to the item >>> and pressed return. Another way to get to exactly that item with item >>> chooser menu is after typing "d o w", type "l i n k". That will filter out >>> the three items which contained the word "download" in your item chooser >>> menu to exactly the one item that also is a link. Then press return to go >>> there. >>> 2. To play the audio, now that focus is on the link, use VO-Space to play >>> the audio. If that doesn't work, route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver >>> cursor with VO-Command-F5, then click on the link with VO-Shift-Space. That >>> will open a web page where the mp3 file plays. If you want to pause, >>> rewind, or otherwise control the player controls, navigate to relevant >>> items in the video element controller. If for some reason you don't find >>> these controls coming up immediately, interact with the HTML area >>> (VO-Shift-Down arrow), and if you need to, interact again with the video >>> element controller toolbar. >>> >>> The second question was about how to "right click" with a Mac, and >>> presumably how to save the downloaded file. >>> >>> First, by way of background, Teresa is correct, the "right click" of a >>> mouse button is meant to bring up a contextual menu. And for the record, I >>> don't use a mouse either. VoiceOver implements two software commands that >>> sometimes are used in this situation. One is VO-Space, which means >>> "perform the default action" for the situation. That could be clicking a >>> button, activating a link, checking a check box, etc. VO-Shift-Space is a >>> software definition to produce a mouse click. I specify these as software >>> links because they only work in VoiceOver, and because there can be >>> situations where they don't work in apps with problematic accessibility, or >>> web pages which may be imperfectly coded --- which means that they work in >>> most situations, but may to exactly adhere to strict coding rules of the >>> web consortia. >>> >>> Max is correct that a "right click" on a mouse is equivalent to a "Control >>> click" on a Mac -- where that means that with your mouse cursor routed to >>> your VoiceOver cursor you press the Control key and also click the >>> trackpad. That's a hardware equivalent -- it always works, regardless of >>> software coding. Your son, or anyone else, can use that gesture on a Mac >>> in place of a right click with a mouse button. >>> >>> 3. In order to save the linked file as an mp3 file, you need to follow the >>> instructions on the web page and choose "Save linked file as…" NOT "Save >>> linked file to Downloads" >>> >>> If you follow the web page instructions, you will be able to save the >>> linked file as an mp3 file. If you don't use "Save linked file as…" but >>> instead use "Save linked file to Downloads" you will always get the HTML >>> page. This has nothing to do with VoiceOver accessibility and everything >>> to do with following instructions -- if you ask your sighted son to choose >>> the "Save linked file to Downloads", he will also get an HTML file. >>> >>> So when you use the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) on the link, arrow down to >>> "Save linked file as …" and press return. Alternatively, if you want it to >>> play the track in iTunes, you can choose "Open with iTunes" -- but you will >>> not be downloading the actual file, just a pointer to the streamed mp3 file >>> on the web site that will be added to the iTunes library. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >>> >>>> hello; i'm sorry. i said sometimes because other times all you get is the >>>> html link. if it were youtube you could use their new html5 i wish i >>>> could be more help. take care, max >>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Mary Scott wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay, I opened the context menu and clicked on save file in downloads. I >>>>> went to my downloads folder and it saved the html page with the link on >>>>> it but I still can not get it to play. My son just presses a place on >>>>> the track pad and it plays. Is there a way to get the track pad to tell >>>>> me where the triangle is indicates a play button? I am feeling rather >>>>> frustrated. Mel Thanks for helping me. >>>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It means bring up the contextual menu with VO-shift-M. >>>>>> >>>>>> hTH, >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >>>>>> Feynman >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Mary Scott wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not to sound stupid but when you say "right click" does that mean press >>>>>>> Enter or VO space bar. I do not use the mouse. >>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sometimes you can right click on the link and download the linked >>>>>>>> file. good luck, max >>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Mary Scott wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I discovered how to copy and paste now here's why I wanted it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I want help figuring out how to play an audio clip from this website. >>>>>>>>> From:21-Day Meditation Challenge >>>>>>>>> <meditationchalle...@chopra.com> I can't find the play button. >>>>>>>>> My sighted friend has no problem. Any help is appreciated. Mel >>>>>>>>> If there is a better way for me to have asked this question, please >>>>>>>>> tell me. 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