Hello Mel, This web site is clearly not designed with accessibility in mind. When I couldn't find a link name that appeared to be associated with a download or media player I tried to check the link images. The seventh item on the links menu of the web rotor, which has a name that starts with "Pic" and then number for a July 16, 2012 calendar date, followed by a few more numbers and a "jpg" extension turned out to be to a YouTube video with the URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSr_EGOFYrU&feature=youtu.be I don't know whether you can play this on your Mac, depending on your settings. I do have Adobe flash enabled on my Mac for those times when I have to find something where there's flash. However, this video appears to available in HTML5, which means that it will play on iOS devices and systems without flash.
The name of the YouTube page is: "Hangout with Deepak, Paulo Coehlo, Vicente Fox, Lisa Ling, Fran Drescher, Eric Handler, and more!" If you have an iOS device of any sort, you can go to the YouTube app and type in "Hangout with Deepak" into the search box to get this and play it in a totally accessible manner! I don't know how you're supposed to download this, and I didn't read anything on that web page about downloading a YouTube video. There is a site called dirpy.com that lets you perform audio and video downloads of YouTube videos, and it works reliably and accessibly. But these functions don't seem to be working today. When I visit the URL: http://dirpy.com/ there is a message: "We are looking at the YouTube issue and will have an update as soon as possible. Thank you." Normally, I could just paste in the URL from the YouTube address bar into the text box and press return to get a page of with the matching video and download options. Today, doing that presents me with a page of random YouTube links. Typing in the search term "Hangout with Deepak, Paulo Coehlo, Vicente Fox, Lisa Ling, Fran Drescher, Eric Handler, and more!" and pressing return does give me a page with two links -- one to the actual video and another to a short preview video that was put out to announce the event, but none of the controls that let you select the audio or video format you want to download appear today. I guess this is part of the "YouTube issue" that they are looking into. By the way, you'll only be able to do the conversion if you have Adobe Flash player support on your Mac, which now has to be explicitly downloaded. It doesn't come as part of the Mac computer systems any more, and it really was a source of performance problems on some machines, as well as being an accessibility sore. If you want to read more details about how to use the Dirpy site (assuming they fix the YouTube access issue, and you can play Flash), check my forum post at the Mail Archive site: • Re: accessible youtube to mp3 converter http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg58313.html Really the only warning is that the downloads (when this is working) happen really fast after you make your selections and with no alerts, so you should just check your Downloads folder. However, if you read down the thread (with Control-n), you'll find a post from someone who got the mp3 download working, but wanted the video download as well, and my response goes through a step-by-step description of the controls. It turns out that the second time the user tried it, using the same steps as before, everything worked for the video download as well, so my reply was not really needed, but if you want to read a detailed description about the layout of the "Record Video" and "Record Audio" controls for the dirpy.com site, pressing control-n twice after opening the link I gave above, will navigate to first the question post about video and my response. HTH. If it's any consolation, I don't understand that website, either. Cheers, Esther On Jul 22, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Mary Scott wrote: > > > I just don't understand this website. I have not been able to locate a > download link. MelHi, Here is the url > http://www.chopracentermeditation.com/bestsellers/ProgramPage.aspx?bookid=169&id=7219 > On Jul 22, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hello Mel, >> >> First, let me answer what I think is your question, and also give the URL of >> what I believe is the web page you are trying to use. Guessing from the >> title "21-day Meditation Challenge" and the address of chopra.com, I did a >> Google search and found this promos page with an MP3 download: >> http://promos.chopra.com/cdcollections/ >> I've retitled the subject of this post. If this is not the page that you >> are using, please supply the actual URL. You can copy it by using the >> Command-L shortcut to move to the address bar of your Safari browser, then >> use Command-C to copy. If you switch to your mail application (e.g. with >> Command-Tab), you can paste the URL of the web page you are asking about >> with Command-V. >> >> Initially you asked: >>>>>>>> I want help figuring out how to play an audio clip from this website. >>>>>>>> From:21-Day Meditation Challenge <meditationchalle...@chopra.com> >>>>>>>> I can't find the play button. My sighted friend has no problem. >>>>>>>> Any help is appreciated. >> The relevant section of the web page contained the instructions >> <begin quote> >> Please click the play button to stream the audio. >> If you'd like to download the MP3, the instructions are as follows: >> STEP 1: right-click on this download link >> STEP 2: (for PCs) after right-clicking , choose " save target as " and save >> to your computer. >> STEP 2: (for MACs) after right-clicking, choose "save link as" and save to >> your computer. >> <end quote> >> >> OK. The first answer on how to play the audio on that page. >> 1. Navigate to the download link. You can bring up your web rotor (VO-U) >> and set it to "Links" (by simultaneously pressing your up and left arrow >> keys). Then arrow down to "this download link" in the links menu and press >> return. You can alternatively use item chooser menu (VO-I) to navigate to >> "this download link". I typed "d o w" and then arrowed down to the item and >> pressed return. Another way to get to exactly that item with item chooser >> menu is after typing "d o w", type "l i n k". That will filter out the >> three items which contained the word "download" in your item chooser menu to >> exactly the one item that also is a link. Then press return to go there. >> 2. To play the audio, now that focus is on the link, use VO-Space to play >> the audio. If that doesn't work, route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver >> cursor with VO-Command-F5, then click on the link with VO-Shift-Space. That >> will open a web page where the mp3 file plays. If you want to pause, >> rewind, or otherwise control the player controls, navigate to relevant items >> in the video element controller. If for some reason you don't find these >> controls coming up immediately, interact with the HTML area (VO-Shift-Down >> arrow), and if you need to, interact again with the video element controller >> toolbar. >> >> The second question was about how to "right click" with a Mac, and >> presumably how to save the downloaded file. >> >> First, by way of background, Teresa is correct, the "right click" of a mouse >> button is meant to bring up a contextual menu. And for the record, I don't >> use a mouse either. VoiceOver implements two software commands that >> sometimes are used in this situation. One is VO-Space, which means "perform >> the default action" for the situation. That could be clicking a button, >> activating a link, checking a check box, etc. VO-Shift-Space is a software >> definition to produce a mouse click. I specify these as software links >> because they only work in VoiceOver, and because there can be situations >> where they don't work in apps with problematic accessibility, or web pages >> which may be imperfectly coded --- which means that they work in most >> situations, but may to exactly adhere to strict coding rules of the web >> consortia. >> >> Max is correct that a "right click" on a mouse is equivalent to a "Control >> click" on a Mac -- where that means that with your mouse cursor routed to >> your VoiceOver cursor you press the Control key and also click the trackpad. >> That's a hardware equivalent -- it always works, regardless of software >> coding. Your son, or anyone else, can use that gesture on a Mac in place of >> a right click with a mouse button. >> >> 3. In order to save the linked file as an mp3 file, you need to follow the >> instructions on the web page and choose "Save linked file as…" NOT "Save >> linked file to Downloads" >> >> If you follow the web page instructions, you will be able to save the linked >> file as an mp3 file. If you don't use "Save linked file as…" but instead >> use "Save linked file to Downloads" you will always get the HTML page. This >> has nothing to do with VoiceOver accessibility and everything to do with >> following instructions -- if you ask your sighted son to choose the "Save >> linked file to Downloads", he will also get an HTML file. >> >> So when you use the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) on the link, arrow down to >> "Save linked file as …" and press return. Alternatively, if you want it to >> play the track in iTunes, you can choose "Open with iTunes" -- but you will >> not be downloading the actual file, just a pointer to the streamed mp3 file >> on the web site that will be added to the iTunes library. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >> >>> hello; i'm sorry. i said sometimes because other times all you get is the >>> html link. if it were youtube you could use their new html5 i wish i could >>> be more help. take care, max >>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Mary Scott wrote: >>> >>>> Okay, I opened the context menu and clicked on save file in downloads. I >>>> went to my downloads folder and it saved the html page with the link on it >>>> but I still can not get it to play. My son just presses a place on the >>>> track pad and it plays. Is there a way to get the track pad to tell me >>>> where the triangle is indicates a play button? I am feeling rather >>>> frustrated. Mel Thanks for helping me. >>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> >>>>> It means bring up the contextual menu with VO-shift-M. >>>>> >>>>> hTH, >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >>>>> Feynman >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Mary Scott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Not to sound stupid but when you say "right click" does that mean press >>>>>> Enter or VO space bar. I do not use the mouse. >>>>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> sometimes you can right click on the link and download the linked file. >>>>>>> good luck, max >>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Mary Scott wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I discovered how to copy and paste now here's why I wanted it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want help figuring out how to play an audio clip from this website. >>>>>>>> From:21-Day Meditation Challenge <meditationchalle...@chopra.com> >>>>>>>> I can't find the play button. My sighted friend has no problem. >>>>>>>> Any help is appreciated. Mel If there is a better way for me to >>>>>>>> have asked this question, please tell me. Mel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
