ProTools has been working towards total accessibility for a few years now.  
I know a few people connected with the project, and the developers have been 
extremely helpful and responsive to the situation.  Just stay tuned to future 
releases.


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On Jun 28, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:

> Ah, so, are you then suggesting that perhaps Pro-Tools 11 might be an 
> accessible desaster for us; or, that accessibility will in fact very much 
> improve.  If and when Sound Forge does come out for the Mac, I just might be 
> willing to give the demo a go.  That should let me know pretty much right off 
> about accessibility.  If accessible, it then depends on the price of Forge 
> verses Pro-Tools.  
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> I agree ProTools is definitely industry standard, and is what i use every 
>> single day in my work flow, so before anyone says it's not accessible really 
>> much, allow me to completely disagree and ask if you've read the 
>> documentation, as if you have, you'll find there are key mappings for 
>> literally almost everything.
>>  
>> We dont' have access to the midi event editer, and a few other plugins, and 
>> with the new version 10.2, now that they've switched from RTAS over to A A 
>> X, Avid has pretty well made the stocked plugins impossible to deal with, 
>> and from what I"m told, in PT 11, RTAS is totally going to be a thing a the 
>> past.  My guess is this is gonna piss off may artists like myself to no end, 
>> as some of the older legacy plugins will become unusable.  I've heard 
>> nothing about forward coming accessibility one way or another, good or bad, 
>> so I can't speak what Avid is doing to fix things, if anything.  I 
>> personally am staying back on 10.0, as for one, I don't see that 10.2 really 
>> offers me anything in my work flow that I couldn't get from 10.0.  10.0 
>> aparently is the last version to come with the RTAS formatted plugins.  NOw, 
>> obviously, there are some plugins that don't work at all even with RTAS.  A 
>> good stocked example of this is the Structure sounds.  Having said this, 
>> there is a fair amount as well in Xpand2 that we're missing.  For instance, 
>> we don't have access to all 6 channels of the plugin.  Basically, if we did, 
>> we essentially could use 1 instance of the plugin, instead of 6 different 
>> instances, on 6 different track inserts, and could route multiple patches 
>> through that one instance, say on channel 1, we may have piano, 2 we may 
>> have say, strings, 3 maybe rhythm guitar, 4 base guitar, 5 lead guitar, and 
>> finally 6, drums.  Basically a sighted person could literally patch all that 
>> through one instance, then allow that to be put either on an instrument 
>> track, or the output of a midi track.  heck, you could even route it through 
>> a send, and then receive it on an auxiliary input track through a bus.  
>> There's a million and one different ways a doing it.  Point is, because we 
>> only have access with Voiceover to the first of those 6 channels, we 
>> literally have to set muliple instances per? patch.  You can imagine how 
>> much resources this can hog.
>>  
>> My suggestion to anyone who wants to try P T instead of, or as well as this 
>> new SoundForge ordeal is to find a DVD copy of ProTools 10.0.  I might even 
>> be willing to put it on my web site and provide a link, as it's not like 
>> that would be illegal.  You'd still have to have your own license on an ILok 
>> in order for it to open and launch once installed.  So, really without an 
>> assett on an  external USB ILok, you're gonna get absolutely nowhere with 
>> just the 10.0 DVD.  Beside, I already asked Avid, and they said that wasn't 
>> illegal, and that was perfectly fine, so's long as I don't provide a 
>> physical way to break the copy rpotection  scheme, which I have absolutely 
>> no intention what so ever to do.
>>  
>> If someone on list though just needs the DVD, I can get you 10.0 standard, 
>> or 9.0 MPowered.  I got both.  Just know you'll need to have an M Audio 
>> interface/control surface either or/both for MPowered 9 to work.
>>  
>> Just let me know if you all need the DVD's.  Again, you're on your own as 
>> far as getting an ILok with the license, but I don't midn at least! 
>> providing the two DVD's seeing taht Avid no longer has either of them on 
>> their web site being now the only one they have up there is 10.2.
>>  
>> Main thing I'm saying in all this is due to the industry standard and due to 
>> the fact PT has come so far in accessibility, I probably will just stick 
>> with it for my audio/editting needs.  Once you get the hang of it, ProTools 
>> really is not that difficult to use nor edit with.  It does take a little 
>> getting used to, but once you do, it works very very well.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ray Foret Jr
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: Sony's Sound Forge Audio Editing Software Coming to Mac?
>> 
>> Just took a look.  The video is crap for us though.
>> 
>> IF this is true, very interesting.  I imagine there are some of us who will 
>> give the demo a good go as soon as possible.  Back in my windows days, Sound 
>> Forge was the editor of which I made most use.  Sure will be interesting to 
>> see how this stacks up against Pro-Tools.
>> 
>> OF course, we all know that Pro-Tools is the audio industry standard; still, 
>> not everyone can spring for $6.99.  Just imagine this.  Sound Forge used 
>> with RX 2 plugins!!  Now, that's a combination I could realy really go for!!
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:44 AM, David Hole wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> Have you seen this? 
>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/28/sonys-sound-forge-audio-editing-software-coming-to-mac/
>>> 
>>> I hope for:
>>> * Great accessibility with VoiceOver
>>> * Buying it from the App Store
>>> If this two is fullfilled, I'll hunt it ASAP :-)
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