Ah, so, are you then suggesting that perhaps Pro-Tools 11 might be an accessible desaster for us; or, that accessibility will in fact very much improve. If and when Sound Forge does come out for the Mac, I just might be willing to give the demo a go. That should let me know pretty much right off about accessibility. If accessible, it then depends on the price of Forge verses Pro-Tools.
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > I agree ProTools is definitely industry standard, and is what i use every > single day in my work flow, so before anyone says it's not accessible really > much, allow me to completely disagree and ask if you've read the > documentation, as if you have, you'll find there are key mappings for > literally almost everything. > > We dont' have access to the midi event editer, and a few other plugins, and > with the new version 10.2, now that they've switched from RTAS over to A A X, > Avid has pretty well made the stocked plugins impossible to deal with, and > from what I"m told, in PT 11, RTAS is totally going to be a thing a the past. > My guess is this is gonna piss off may artists like myself to no end, as > some of the older legacy plugins will become unusable. I've heard nothing > about forward coming accessibility one way or another, good or bad, so I > can't speak what Avid is doing to fix things, if anything. I personally am > staying back on 10.0, as for one, I don't see that 10.2 really offers me > anything in my work flow that I couldn't get from 10.0. 10.0 aparently is > the last version to come with the RTAS formatted plugins. NOw, obviously, > there are some plugins that don't work at all even with RTAS. A good stocked > example of this is the Structure sounds. Having said this, there is a fair > amount as well in Xpand2 that we're missing. For instance, we don't have > access to all 6 channels of the plugin. Basically, if we did, we essentially > could use 1 instance of the plugin, instead of 6 different instances, on 6 > different track inserts, and could route multiple patches through that one > instance, say on channel 1, we may have piano, 2 we may have say, strings, 3 > maybe rhythm guitar, 4 base guitar, 5 lead guitar, and finally 6, drums. > Basically a sighted person could literally patch all that through one > instance, then allow that to be put either on an instrument track, or the > output of a midi track. heck, you could even route it through a send, and > then receive it on an auxiliary input track through a bus. There's a million > and one different ways a doing it. Point is, because we only have access > with Voiceover to the first of those 6 channels, we literally have to set > muliple instances per? patch. You can imagine how much resources this can > hog. > > My suggestion to anyone who wants to try P T instead of, or as well as this > new SoundForge ordeal is to find a DVD copy of ProTools 10.0. I might even > be willing to put it on my web site and provide a link, as it's not like that > would be illegal. You'd still have to have your own license on an ILok in > order for it to open and launch once installed. So, really without an assett > on an external USB ILok, you're gonna get absolutely nowhere with just the > 10.0 DVD. Beside, I already asked Avid, and they said that wasn't illegal, > and that was perfectly fine, so's long as I don't provide a physical way to > break the copy rpotection scheme, which I have absolutely no intention what > so ever to do. > > If someone on list though just needs the DVD, I can get you 10.0 standard, or > 9.0 MPowered. I got both. Just know you'll need to have an M Audio > interface/control surface either or/both for MPowered 9 to work. > > Just let me know if you all need the DVD's. Again, you're on your own as far > as getting an ILok with the license, but I don't midn at least! providing the > two DVD's seeing taht Avid no longer has either of them on their web site > being now the only one they have up there is 10.2. > > Main thing I'm saying in all this is due to the industry standard and due to > the fact PT has come so far in accessibility, I probably will just stick with > it for my audio/editting needs. Once you get the hang of it, ProTools really > is not that difficult to use nor edit with. It does take a little getting > used to, but once you do, it works very very well. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ray Foret Jr > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: Sony's Sound Forge Audio Editing Software Coming to Mac? > > Just took a look. The video is crap for us though. > > IF this is true, very interesting. I imagine there are some of us who will > give the demo a good go as soon as possible. Back in my windows days, Sound > Forge was the editor of which I made most use. Sure will be interesting to > see how this stacks up against Pro-Tools. > > OF course, we all know that Pro-Tools is the audio industry standard; still, > not everyone can spring for $6.99. Just imagine this. Sound Forge used with > RX 2 plugins!! Now, that's a combination I could realy really go for!! > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:44 AM, David Hole wrote: > >> Hi folks. >> >> Have you seen this? >> http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/28/sonys-sound-forge-audio-editing-software-coming-to-mac/ >> >> I hope for: >> * Great accessibility with VoiceOver >> * Buying it from the App Store >> If this two is fullfilled, I'll hunt it ASAP :-) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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