I agree ProTools is definitely industry standard, and is what i use every
single day in my work flow, so before anyone says it's not accessible really
much, allow me to completely disagree and ask if you've read the documentation,
as if you have, you'll find there are key mappings for literally almost
everything.
We dont' have access to the midi event editer, and a few other plugins, and
with the new version 10.2, now that they've switched from RTAS over to A A X,
Avid has pretty well made the stocked plugins impossible to deal with, and from
what I"m told, in PT 11, RTAS is totally going to be a thing a the past. My
guess is this is gonna piss off may artists like myself to no end, as some of
the older legacy plugins will become unusable. I've heard nothing about
forward coming accessibility one way or another, good or bad, so I can't speak
what Avid is doing to fix things, if anything. I personally am staying back on
10.0, as for one, I don't see that 10.2 really offers me anything in my work
flow that I couldn't get from 10.0. 10.0 aparently is the last version to come
with the RTAS formatted plugins. NOw, obviously, there are some plugins that
don't work at all even with RTAS. A good stocked example of this is the
Structure sounds. Having said this, there is a fair amount as well in Xpand2
that we're missing. For instance, we don't have access to all 6 channels of
the plugin. Basically, if we did, we essentially could use 1 instance of the
plugin, instead of 6 different instances, on 6 different track inserts, and
could route multiple patches through that one instance, say on channel 1, we
may have piano, 2 we may have say, strings, 3 maybe rhythm guitar, 4 base
guitar, 5 lead guitar, and finally 6, drums. Basically a sighted person could
literally patch all that through one instance, then allow that to be put either
on an instrument track, or the output of a midi track. heck, you could even
route it through a send, and then receive it on an auxiliary input track
through a bus. There's a million and one different ways a doing it. Point is,
because we only have access with Voiceover to the first of those 6 channels, we
literally have to set muliple instances per? patch. You can imagine how much
resources this can hog.
My suggestion to anyone who wants to try P T instead of, or as well as this new
SoundForge ordeal is to find a DVD copy of ProTools 10.0. I might even be
willing to put it on my web site and provide a link, as it's not like that
would be illegal. You'd still have to have your own license on an ILok in
order for it to open and launch once installed. So, really without an assett
on an external USB ILok, you're gonna get absolutely nowhere with just the
10.0 DVD. Beside, I already asked Avid, and they said that wasn't illegal, and
that was perfectly fine, so's long as I don't provide a physical way to break
the copy rpotection scheme, which I have absolutely no intention what so ever
to do.
If someone on list though just needs the DVD, I can get you 10.0 standard, or
9.0 MPowered. I got both. Just know you'll need to have an M Audio
interface/control surface either or/both for MPowered 9 to work.
Just let me know if you all need the DVD's. Again, you're on your own as far
as getting an ILok with the license, but I don't midn at least! providing the
two DVD's seeing taht Avid no longer has either of them on their web site being
now the only one they have up there is 10.2.
Main thing I'm saying in all this is due to the industry standard and due to
the fact PT has come so far in accessibility, I probably will just stick with
it for my audio/editting needs. Once you get the hang of it, ProTools really
is not that difficult to use nor edit with. It does take a little getting used
to, but once you do, it works very very well.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: Sony's Sound Forge Audio Editing Software Coming to Mac?
Just took a look. The video is crap for us though.
IF this is true, very interesting. I imagine there are some of us who will
give the demo a good go as soon as possible. Back in my windows days, Sound
Forge was the editor of which I made most use. Sure will be interesting to see
how this stacks up against Pro-Tools.
OF course, we all know that Pro-Tools is the audio industry standard; still,
not everyone can spring for $6.99. Just imagine this. Sound Forge used with
RX 2 plugins!! Now, that's a combination I could realy really go for!!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:44 AM, David Hole wrote:
Hi folks.
Have you seen this?
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/28/sonys-sound-forge-audio-editing-software-coming-to-mac/
I hope for:
* Great accessibility with VoiceOver
* Buying it from the App Store
If this two is fullfilled, I'll hunt it ASAP :-)
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