Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were.
On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a > ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a > tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered > computer with the coal hopper? (grins) > > Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For > me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra > weight. > > Teresa > > "Slow down; you'll get there faster." > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having >> something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at >> $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I >> gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth >> consideration. >> >> On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: >> >>> I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a >>> Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille >>> display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my >>> iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I >>> am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. >>> As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and >>> straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line >>> about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less >>> expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate >>> getting it. Thanks. >>> (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) >>> >>> Christine >>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> >>>> I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I >>>> couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. >>>> >>>> I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 >>>> Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least >>>> $5000 US. >>>> >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>>> >>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but >>>>> apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are >>>>> footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're >>>>> missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>> Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, >>>>> New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, >>>>> visit >>>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >>>>> >>>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I >>>>>> think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more >>>>>> money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going >>>>>> to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how >>>>>> many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille >>>>>> proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I >>>>>> could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 >>>>>> or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry >>>>>> around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You >>>>>> would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the >>>>>> luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I >>>>>> have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display >>>>>> that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to >>>>>> carry the display around. >>>>>> >>>>>> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the >>>>>> least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with >>>>>> VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't >>>>>> believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program >>>>>> could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and >>>>>> somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many >>>>>> as VoiceOver. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Gigi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Eugenia Firth >>>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that >>>>>>> there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more >>>>>>> reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for >>>>>>> $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 >>>>>>> cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is >>>>>>> a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing >>>>>>> House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a >>>>>>> very well made display. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for >>>>>>> many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where >>>>>>> more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, >>>>>>> at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille >>>>>>> display without help from somewhere. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mannion" >>>>>>> <mannion...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>>>> I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I >>>>>>>> were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> my understanding that the price of braille displays are just >>>>>>>> rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then >>>>>>>> some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be >>>>>>>> able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at >>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>> I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my >>>>>>>> near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up >>>>>>>> in frustration. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/2/12, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Jim Gatteys" <jgatt...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all! >>>>>>>>> Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just >>>>>>>>> downloaded a >>>>>>>>> trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It >>>>>>>>> worked with >>>>>>>>> my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a >>>>>>>>> document. >>>>>>>>> I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but >>>>>>>>> for basic >>>>>>>>> stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of >>>>>>>>> fine reader. >>>>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> latest release and there is some support for at least one digital >>>>>>>>>> camera >>>>>>>>>> in that patch upgrade. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is >>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't >>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>> they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they >>>>>>>>>> will not >>>>>>>>>> release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a >>>>>>>>>> copy of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to >>>>>>>>>> make it >>>>>>>>>> worth it for them to do that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" >>>>>>>>>> <br...@hostany.net> >>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old >>>>>>>>>>> Epson >>>>>>>>>>> Perfection scanner, but the new HP all in one takes forever. It's >>>>>>>>>>> true >>>>>>>>>>> that it's quieter by a lot, but it's probably 30 to 45 seconds on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> scanning phase. I hate the mail now more than I ever did, but I >>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> have the space nor USB ports for both devices on the desk. If I >>>>>>>>>>> ever went >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> back to college, I'd seriously look into a sighted person over >>>>>>>>>>> what I >>>>>>>>>>> have now. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:30 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: A Question Regarding OCR >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to being the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue, I also >>>>>>>>>>>> obtained >>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Scientific's Pearl camera along with OpenBook 9.0. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply, I am stunned with the OCR performance in both >>>>>>>>>>>> OpenBook >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> the accuracy of the camera along with the dazzling speed of the >>>>>>>>>>>> image >>>>>>>>>>>> acquisition experience. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think what blows my mind the most is the motion detection that >>>>>>>>>>>> allows >>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>> to turn pages and when the new page is in view of the camera, it >>>>>>>>>>>> automatically takes a photo and begins the OCR process. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I swear it feels as though I have a sighted person reading for >>>>>>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I could go on and on but ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I realize that the pearl has been out for quite some time and am >>>>>>>>>>>> wondering >>>>>>>>>>>> if anyone knows if it will work with anything on the Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I know one thing for sure, with the Pearl in my toolbox, I have >>>>>>>>>>>> put my >>>>>>>>>>>> scanner away for good. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. 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