Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working
with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently
working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were.

On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a
> ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a
> tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered
> computer with the coal hopper? (grins)
>
> Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For
> me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra
> weight.
>
> Teresa
>
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>
> On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>> I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having
>> something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at
>> $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I
>> gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth
>> consideration.
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a
>>> Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille
>>> display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my
>>> iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I
>>> am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute.
>>> As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and
>>> straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line
>>> about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less
>>> expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate
>>> getting it. Thanks.
>>> (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.)
>>>
>>> Christine
>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I
>>>> couldn't use my Braille Lite 40.
>>>>
>>>> I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40
>>>> Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least
>>>> $5000 US.
>>>>
>>>> Teresa
>>>>
>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but
>>>>> apple for sure supports all of the modern ones.  Except that they are
>>>>> footdragging on the brialliant BI displays.  Most of the ones they're
>>>>> missing are legacy serial and parallel devices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>>> Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility,
>>>>> New drive imaging services available.  To read more and subscribe,
>>>>> visit
>>>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I
>>>>>> think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more
>>>>>> money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going
>>>>>> to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how
>>>>>> many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille
>>>>>> proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I
>>>>>> could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12
>>>>>> or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry
>>>>>> around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You
>>>>>> would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the
>>>>>> luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I
>>>>>> have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display
>>>>>> that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to
>>>>>> carry the display around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the
>>>>>> least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with
>>>>>> VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't
>>>>>> believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program
>>>>>> could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and
>>>>>> somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many
>>>>>> as VoiceOver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eugenia Firth
>>>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that
>>>>>>> there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more
>>>>>>> reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for
>>>>>>> $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells.  The new 16
>>>>>>> cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is
>>>>>>> a better deal too.  And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing
>>>>>>> House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a
>>>>>>> very well made display.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for
>>>>>>> many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where
>>>>>>> more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one.  But,
>>>>>>> at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille
>>>>>>> display without help from somewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mannion"
>>>>>>> <mannion...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>> I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I
>>>>>>>> were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> my understanding that the price of braille displays are just
>>>>>>>> rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then
>>>>>>>> some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be
>>>>>>>> able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at
>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my
>>>>>>>> near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up
>>>>>>>> in frustration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/2/12, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jim Gatteys" <jgatt...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>>>> Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac?  I just
>>>>>>>>> downloaded a
>>>>>>>>> trial version and it was much better than a few years ago.  It
>>>>>>>>> worked with
>>>>>>>>> my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a
>>>>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>>>> I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but
>>>>>>>>> for basic
>>>>>>>>> stuff it seemed fine.  I am seriously considering a purchase of
>>>>>>>>> fine reader.
>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is alive and well...  Do you have version 12 patch 4?  That is
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> latest release and there is some support for at least one digital
>>>>>>>>>> camera
>>>>>>>>>> in that patch upgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good.  There is
>>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they
>>>>>>>>>> will not
>>>>>>>>>> release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a
>>>>>>>>>> copy of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to
>>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>>> worth it for them to do that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding"
>>>>>>>>>> <br...@hostany.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old
>>>>>>>>>>> Epson
>>>>>>>>>>> Perfection scanner, but the new HP all in one takes forever. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>>>>>> that it's quieter by a lot, but it's probably 30 to 45 seconds on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> scanning phase. I hate the mail now more than I ever did, but I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> have the space nor USB ports for both devices on the desk. If I
>>>>>>>>>>> ever went
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> back to college, I'd seriously look into a sighted person over
>>>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>>>> have now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:30 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to being the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue, I also
>>>>>>>>>>>> obtained
>>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Scientific's Pearl camera along with OpenBook 9.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply, I am stunned with the OCR performance in both
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenBook
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the accuracy of the camera along with the dazzling speed of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>>>>>>> acquisition experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think what blows my mind the most is the motion detection that
>>>>>>>>>>>> allows
>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>> to turn pages and when the new page is in view of the camera, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically takes a photo and begins the OCR process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I swear it feels as though I have a sighted person reading for
>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I could go on and on but ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I realize that the pearl has been out for quite some time and am
>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>>>> if anyone knows if it will work with anything on the Mac.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know one thing for sure, with the Pearl in my toolbox, I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> put my
>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner away for good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
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