Hi Gi Gi.

I own a Eurobraille40 but you would not think it was if you held it.

I agree these displays are expensive but I'd never be without it as braille for 
me is a god send as far as remembering information.

It's just great that the Macs and I devices do not need drivers unlike window 
products.

Kawal. 

On 4 Apr 2012, at 11:46 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think 
> that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think 
> $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your 
> braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I 
> have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted 
> one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an 
> iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be 
> even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less 
> than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford 
> the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have 
> found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does 
> add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display 
> around.
> 
> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when 
> I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were 
> ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other 
> screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. 
> There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, 
> but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi
> 
> 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote:
> 
>> I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are 
>> some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For 
>> example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even 
>> though it only has 12 cells.  The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker 
>> from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too.  And, the Refresh A 
>> Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 
>> is a good deal, and a very well made display.
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many 
>> people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people 
>> may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one.  But, at $5,000 for a 40 
>> cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from 
>> somewhere.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mannion" <mannion...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I
>>> were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in
>>> my understanding that the price of braille displays are just
>>> rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then
>>> some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be
>>> able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best
>>> I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my
>>> near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to
>>> be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up
>>> in frustration.
>>> 
>>> On 4/2/12, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jim Gatteys" <jgatt...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac?  I just downloaded a
>>>> trial version and it was much better than a few years ago.  It worked with
>>>> my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document.
>>>> I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for 
>>>> basic
>>>> stuff it seemed fine.  I am seriously considering a purchase of fine 
>>>> reader.
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It is alive and well...  Do you have version 12 patch 4?  That is the
>>>>> latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera
>>>>> in that patch upgrade.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good.  There is
>>>>> Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think
>>>>> they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not
>>>>> release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy of
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to make it
>>>>> worth it for them to do that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <br...@hostany.net>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old Epson
>>>>>> Perfection scanner, but the new HP all in one takes forever. It's true
>>>>>> that it's quieter by a lot, but it's probably 30 to 45 seconds on the
>>>>>> scanning phase. I hate the mail now more than I ever did, but I don't
>>>>>> have the space nor USB ports for both devices on the desk. If I ever went
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> back to college, I'd seriously look into a sighted person over what I
>>>>>> have now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:30 PM
>>>>>> Subject: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In addition to being the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue, I also obtained
>>>>>>> Freedom Scientific's Pearl camera along with OpenBook 9.0.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To put it simply, I am stunned with the OCR performance in both OpenBook
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the accuracy of the camera along with the dazzling speed of the image
>>>>>>> acquisition experience.

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