Hi, not a bad idea. I would make 1 small correction. Instead of the person stating their disability, or, the fact that they are even disabled, I would just ask if they use any accessibility features, and have them check off which ones. they use. Voiceover, zoom, etc.
Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 31, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Lewis Alexander <freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com> wrote: > this has just triggered an idea and if there's anyone on list working for > apple, an apple developer or beta tester, here's the idea. > > so that apple is more aware of who has purchased a mac, whenever you purchase > a new mac, start up and register your mac, you should be able to fill in a > questionnaire stating it's use, etc and if so include the option for disabled > users including blind users. this way, each purchased system, or operating > system or application supplied by apple logs details of blind users, so it > gives apple a greater area of support to push for changes in voiceover and > app support. > > just a thought on this. > > lew > > On 31 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Ricardo, >> >> True and we also must remember that Apple is not able to track each time a >> blind/visually impaired user purchases a Mac because they aren't ordering it >> from a company that sells products to that community. YOu are buying your >> Mac from the Apple store etc. So, although APple has a pretty good idea of >> the number of VoiceOver users, they probably do not know the exact to the >> last person number. So, Apple does listen even if you think at times they >> are not. >> >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> I really can't argue with that. selecting text on the web is quite a chore >>> on the Mac. I think Safari, and lack of accessibility or efficiency of a >>> office suite for power users of such applications is the Macs greatest >>> weakness at this point in comparison to jaws with windows. But progress is >>> being made. If anyone has used safari with tiger or leopard, and compared >>> that to snow leopard or Lion, they would see what I mean. lol. Or, even >>> iWorks 2008 which was completely inaccessible, to iWorks 2009 which has >>> some accessibility. That's why I urge everyone to write Apple sharing some >>> of your thoughts in regards to topics like this. How else can we honestly >>> expect Voiceover to improve without feedback. It doesn't matter how small, >>> or insignificant the idea or complaint might be. Its been my experience >>> that its the little things like adding a keystroke to check the time that >>> really can enhance the user experience of a product. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> HI there, >>>> >>>> I am going to create some controversy probably with my post. >>>> >>>> I think the mac has some amazing features like being able to use the >>>> trackpad, having easy access to many different languages, using any mac >>>> you encounter on equal footing, having a stable system, etc. >>>> >>>> I will say that there are enough areas where I find windows (in my case >>>> with jaws) easier to use or more smooth, consistent to use >>>> >>>> I have not used other browsers than safari and I find that when pages >>>> contain frames it is harder to find relevant information on a page, >>>> especially when you do not know the page yet. When you do, it gets faster. >>>> I also find selecting text on webpages much more intricate and less >>>> reliable >>>> I do not need my computer for much other than browsing and emails and from >>>> time to time creating some more official letters so these differences do >>>> not affect me and I can fully enjoy the cool fun sides of the mac like the >>>> variety in voices. But I find sometimes I am more efficient on the pc. It >>>> might be that I am still new to the mac (about 5 months) but I guess maybe >>>> this side of things is worth putting out for discussion. >>>> But, after all, you can still install windows on your mac and get the best >>>> of both worlds. I do not have a pc and do not have a windows version to >>>> install on my mac so it was swim or sink with the mac for me. I think I >>>> have not drowned yet and am enjoying the swim despite the hurdles. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hope this helps a bit. >>>> >>>> Ioana >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online >>>> stores. >>>> >>>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello there, >>>>> >>>>> It's funny you mention flash because one of my big questions is >>>>> browsing the web. I use sites like facebook, gmail, etc... on a >>>>> regular basis and was wondering how easy/difficult they are to use >>>>> with a Mac and VO -- I know facebook is a pain to navigate through >>>>> with jaws on my PC sometimes. What web browser do people mostly use, >>>>> safari? Also, I use twitter but have the qwitter client on my PC... is >>>>> there any program for the Mac that is similar? >>>>> >>>>> I'd be very grateful for any info on these topics. Thanks in advance! >>>>> >>>>> -Marc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/29/12, Gigi <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Mark >>>>>> I would like to say that the two biggest problems, and it's not a problem >>>>>> for everybody, our tables and PDF files if you need to fill out forms. I >>>>>> have gotten around this by telling one of my customers that tables were >>>>>> not >>>>>> an option right now. That is a choice I had. Not everybody has that >>>>>> choice >>>>>> of course. Ask for PDF files, I'll just have to use my vista computer >>>>>> when I >>>>>> absolutely have to. Actually, I gave it to my husband. >>>>>> Some people have said that there is a problem with flash also, but I >>>>>> haven't >>>>>> had much trouble with that. >>>>>> Regards Gigi >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau <marcrochel...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post >>>>>>> to MacVisionaries... be gentle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing >>>>>>> an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm >>>>>>> thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan >>>>>>> on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an >>>>>>> Apple TV, I figured it made sense to migrate to the Mac... or at least >>>>>>> entertain the possibility. I live in Ontario and, thanks to the >>>>>>> assistive devices program, 75% of a new computer is covered every five >>>>>>> years for those with accessibility needs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They recently started covering Apple products and my five years is up >>>>>>> this fall so I was thinking of taking full advantage of this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With that being said, I have a variety of different questions to ask >>>>>>> on here. I just wanted to know what the best way to go about it was. >>>>>>> They cover a wide range of topics and I don't want to spam the list. >>>>>>> On the other side however, putting them all in one e-mail would >>>>>>> probably deter people from viewing certain questions they could answer >>>>>>> because of other questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So erm... I guess I'm asking what standard practice is around here for >>>>>>> such things. I bet you guys get the same questions from new comers all >>>>>>> the time so I don't want to be repetitive either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for any advice you can lend and I look forward to learning >>>>>>> about the wonderful world of Mac! :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Marc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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