I've never had this issue either and I have a 15 inch Macbook Pro On Mar 20, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
> this does sound like a resolution issue where the required component is not > being mapped to the display or voiceover directly. if we all flag this to > accessibility and safari bug reporting, then this should come up as a > priority fix in mountain lion which as I understand is due out in the next > few months. Am looking forward to testing it out. > > lew > > On 20 Mar 2012, at 20:59, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Well, for my part, on my 15 inch Mac book pro, the download window has never >> ever failed to show when required. >> >> Not using full screen on Safari by the way. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> >> >> On Mar 20, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: >> >>> Hi, I have a 15 inch macbook pro and I to, have these issues where the >>> downloads window doesn't show up. >>> Matt >>> Sent from my mac >>> Twitter: matt692 >>> msn and aim: matt...@live.com >>> skype: blindman3221 >>> >>> On 2012-03-20, at 4:09 PM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Søren, >>>> >>>> No, I've never had a MacBook larger than 13 inches. And I've never typed >>>> more than occasionally on desktop Macs, so I haven't experienced these >>>> issues. This sounds like the issues are screen-resolution/size specific. >>>> I wonder whether anyone else with the larger Mac laptops can report on >>>> their experiences with Safari. I do note that the major reason I've found >>>> to delay upgrades between major releases of Mac OS X is usually the new >>>> behavior of Safari. Also, the first system versions after a new release >>>> may show up more VoiceOver focus issues than previously experienced in >>>> mature, stable releases. >>>> >>>> Thanks for reporting on your experience. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Esther. >>>>> >>>>> So you have a Macbook pro 15 inch? Safari works differently with >>>>> VOiceover on a 15 inch Macbook. I've experienced things like focusing >>>>> issues in java windows, the mouse getting stuck on the desctop while >>>>> moving it to the webpage with VO command f5, and clicking by pressing VO >>>>> shift spacebar and the other weird issue by bringing up the downloads >>>>> folder. >>>>> I know people who have a macbook 13 inch and an iMac, where this doesn't >>>>> happen. >>>>> Best regards: >>>>> Søren Jensen >>>>> Mail & MSN: >>>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>>>> Website: >>>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>>> >>>>> Den 20/03/2012 kl. 17.35 skrev Esther: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Søren, >>>>>> >>>>>> That's interesting. I'm using a MacBook Air with Lion. When I go to >>>>>> full screen mode by pressing command ctrl f in Safari, my toolbar is >>>>>> displayed even if I have hidden it. I can check this by navigating to >>>>>> the menu bar with either ctrl F2 or VO m, then going to the "View" menu >>>>>> and arrowing down. If I check this menu before toggling to full screen >>>>>> mode, the first entry shows as "Show Toolbar". And in this mode, with >>>>>> my toolbar hidden, when I press ctrl option l there is no downloads >>>>>> window displayed, even though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads". If I >>>>>> show my toolbar, either by using the "View" menu option or the shortcut >>>>>> for toggling the toolbar between show and hide, which is ctrl shift >>>>>> backslash on an English language input keyboard, then the downloads >>>>>> window will show up when I press ctrl option l. >>>>>> >>>>>> Similarly, making Safari run in full screen mode by toggling this on >>>>>> with command ctrl f will also let my downloads window show up when I >>>>>> press ctrl option l. But what happens here is that my toolbar is >>>>>> forcibly shown when I'm in full screen mode. If I navigate to the menu >>>>>> bar and check the "View" menu while in full screen mode, the first menu >>>>>> entry will show up as "Hide Toolbar" and will also be announced as >>>>>> "dimmed", indicating that I can't change this. Furthermore, I can test >>>>>> whether the toolbar is present by using the shortcut ctrl F5 for >>>>>> navigating to the toolbar. When my toolbar is hidden, pressing ctrl F5 >>>>>> will not take me to the toolbar, because it's hidden. As previously >>>>>> stated, in this mode I can't see the downloads window when I press >>>>>> command option l. If I show my toolbar, and am not in full screen mode, >>>>>> then pressing ctrl F5 takes me to the "Back button" of the toolbar. >>>>>> Now, even if my toolbar is hidden when I am not in full screen mode, >>>>>> once I press command ctrl f, and VoiceOver says "Enter Full Screen", it >>>>>> becomes visible. If I press ctrl F5, I'll be taken to the "Back >>>>>> button", and I check the "View" menu, "Hide Toolbar" appears as dimmed. >>>>>> And because the toolbar is now forcibly shown, even though it was >>>>>> originally hidden when not in full screen mode, pressing command option >>>>>> l now shows me my downloads folder. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if the difference in behavior, where I can view the downloads >>>>>> folder when the toolbar is not hidden without having to run Safari in >>>>>> full screen mode, is another one of those instances of English-specific >>>>>> shortcut key mapping? I know that UK users are also able to view the >>>>>> downloads folder if their toolbar is not hidden, without having to put >>>>>> Safari into full screen mode. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On my Macbook pro 15 inch, I can only bring up the downloads folder if >>>>>>> I'm running safari in full screen. If I don't have the full screen >>>>>>> activated by pressing command ctrl f, then Voiceover just says >>>>>>> something like showing the downoads folder. I have not hidden my >>>>>>> toolbar. >>>>>>> Best regards: >>>>>>> Søren Jensen >>>>>>> Mail & MSN: >>>>>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>>>>>> Website: >>>>>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Den 20/03/2012 kl. 08.24 skrev Esther: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi May, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Command-Option-L to bring up the Safari downloads window only works if >>>>>>>> you do not have your toolbar hidden. If your toolbar is hidden, then >>>>>>>> even though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads" when you use this >>>>>>>> shortcut, nothing is displayed. So you might press >>>>>>>> Command-Shift-Backslash to toggle your Safari toolbar to be shown >>>>>>>> before trying that shortcut. Also, you can navigate to a "Show >>>>>>>> Downloads" button in the toolbar and press it with VO-Space to show >>>>>>>> your downloads window. I have the vague impression that when I first >>>>>>>> upgraded to Lion, I may have had to press that button once, to later >>>>>>>> get my downloads window to show. Again, this only works if your >>>>>>>> toolbar is not hidden. You can press Command-Option-F to navigate to >>>>>>>> the Google Search field, then VO-Right arrow to the "Show Downloads" >>>>>>>> button, and press it with VO-Space. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:08 PM, May McDonald wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hmm, ok when I do that it says show downloads but still nothing. >>>>>>>>> Something else I need to do maybe? >>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-20, at 2:59 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrong command. Its command option L to bring up the downloads >>>>>>>>>> window. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hth >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:58 AM, May McDonald <mcdonald....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good evening everyone. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can someone please tell me how I go about getting the download >>>>>>>>>>> window to pop up like it us to with SL in Lion? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Doing command l then going to the download button is not doing it >>>>>>>>>>> which is what silly Apple told me to do. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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