Hi Esther. So you have a Macbook pro 15 inch? Safari works differently with VOiceover on a 15 inch Macbook. I've experienced things like focusing issues in java windows, the mouse getting stuck on the desctop while moving it to the webpage with VO command f5, and clicking by pressing VO shift spacebar and the other weird issue by bringing up the downloads folder. I know people who have a macbook 13 inch and an iMac, where this doesn't happen. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
Den 20/03/2012 kl. 17.35 skrev Esther: > Hi Søren, > > That's interesting. I'm using a MacBook Air with Lion. When I go to full > screen mode by pressing command ctrl f in Safari, my toolbar is displayed > even if I have hidden it. I can check this by navigating to the menu bar > with either ctrl F2 or VO m, then going to the "View" menu and arrowing down. > If I check this menu before toggling to full screen mode, the first entry > shows as "Show Toolbar". And in this mode, with my toolbar hidden, when I > press ctrl option l there is no downloads window displayed, even though > VoiceOver says "Show Downloads". If I show my toolbar, either by using the > "View" menu option or the shortcut for toggling the toolbar between show and > hide, which is ctrl shift backslash on an English language input keyboard, > then the downloads window will show up when I press ctrl option l. > > Similarly, making Safari run in full screen mode by toggling this on with > command ctrl f will also let my downloads window show up when I press ctrl > option l. But what happens here is that my toolbar is forcibly shown when > I'm in full screen mode. If I navigate to the menu bar and check the "View" > menu while in full screen mode, the first menu entry will show up as "Hide > Toolbar" and will also be announced as "dimmed", indicating that I can't > change this. Furthermore, I can test whether the toolbar is present by using > the shortcut ctrl F5 for navigating to the toolbar. When my toolbar is > hidden, pressing ctrl F5 will not take me to the toolbar, because it's > hidden. As previously stated, in this mode I can't see the downloads window > when I press command option l. If I show my toolbar, and am not in full > screen mode, then pressing ctrl F5 takes me to the "Back button" of the > toolbar. Now, even if my toolbar is hidden when I am not in full screen > mode, once I press command ctrl f, and VoiceOver says "Enter Full Screen", > it becomes visible. If I press ctrl F5, I'll be taken to the "Back button", > and I check the "View" menu, "Hide Toolbar" appears as dimmed. And because > the toolbar is now forcibly shown, even though it was originally hidden when > not in full screen mode, pressing command option l now shows me my downloads > folder. > > I wonder if the difference in behavior, where I can view the downloads folder > when the toolbar is not hidden without having to run Safari in full screen > mode, is another one of those instances of English-specific shortcut key > mapping? I know that UK users are also able to view the downloads folder if > their toolbar is not hidden, without having to put Safari into full screen > mode. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Mar 20, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> On my Macbook pro 15 inch, I can only bring up the downloads folder if I'm >> running safari in full screen. If I don't have the full screen activated by >> pressing command ctrl f, then Voiceover just says something like showing the >> downoads folder. I have not hidden my toolbar. >> Best regards: >> Søren Jensen >> Mail & MSN: >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >> Website: >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >> >> Den 20/03/2012 kl. 08.24 skrev Esther: >> >>> Hi May, >>> >>> Command-Option-L to bring up the Safari downloads window only works if you >>> do not have your toolbar hidden. If your toolbar is hidden, then even >>> though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads" when you use this shortcut, nothing >>> is displayed. So you might press Command-Shift-Backslash to toggle your >>> Safari toolbar to be shown before trying that shortcut. Also, you can >>> navigate to a "Show Downloads" button in the toolbar and press it with >>> VO-Space to show your downloads window. I have the vague impression that >>> when I first upgraded to Lion, I may have had to press that button once, to >>> later get my downloads window to show. Again, this only works if your >>> toolbar is not hidden. You can press Command-Option-F to navigate to the >>> Google Search field, then VO-Right arrow to the "Show Downloads" button, >>> and press it with VO-Space. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:08 PM, May McDonald wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm, ok when I do that it says show downloads but still nothing. Something >>>> else I need to do maybe? >>>> On 2012-03-20, at 2:59 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> wrong command. Its command option L to bring up the downloads window. >>>>> >>>>> hth >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:58 AM, May McDonald <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good evening everyone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can someone please tell me how I go about getting the download window to >>>>>> pop up like it us to with SL in Lion? >>>>>> >>>>>> Doing command l then going to the download button is not doing it which >>>>>> is what silly Apple told me to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> May and Prince Noah >>>>>> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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