Hello Esther, thanks to you. You encouraged me to try it again and again. And so I found out a funny thing:
When I copy the last spoken phrase of VO to the clipboard by pressing VO + c the following apears after pasting: Normalisieren … This is the german word for normalize. There's the command then two empty spaces and the the elipsis sign. That doesn't work in the preferences of keaboard short cuts. Then I tried Normalisieren… That's what you used in your example, also no success. Then I tried Normalisieren … just with one empty space and that worked. Isn't it strange? But anyway: I'm happy now to have the way free to define short cuts for all commands in a menue. :-) All the best Jürgen Am 21.02.2012 um 23:12 schrieb Esther: > Hello Jürgen, > > Make sure that the keyboard shortcut you are assigning does not conflict with > an existing shortcut definition that applies either to that application or > system wide on your Mac. One of the reason that I use so many modifier keys > in the example shortcut, is that you quickly run out of unique combinations. > That's also why I make new shortcut definitions sparingly, and delete the > ones that I set up as test cases. > > Just out of curiosity, which command did you want to create a shortcut for? > I'm working with a new installation under Lion, and don't have apps like > Amadeus Pro loaded yet (this is a MacBook Air with less disk space than I had > previously), so I can't run tests to answer questions while I'm still getting > my system configured and transitioned to Lion. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 21, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > >> Hello Esther, >> >> thanks for your efforts. But still strange: I did it point by point as you >> did and it doesn't work for me and Amadeus Pro. I can add a new created >> short cut in system preferences and it doesn't apear in the menue of Amadeus >> Pro and of course it doesn't work as well. >> >> I'm not sure why it doesn't work but will investigate that issue. But now I >> know at least it works at all. >> >> Thanks again for your help and >> all the best >> Jürgen >> Am 21.02.2012 um 21:40 schrieb Esther: >> >>> Hello Jürgen, >>> >>> To create keyboard shortcuts of those menu options which end with an >>> ellipsis, in Snow Leopard and Lion you navigate to System Preferences > >>> Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts (tab 2 of 2) and select the option from a >>> table. >>> >>> 1. If the menu command is for a specific application, navigate to the >>> "Shortcuts categories" table and interact, then select "Application >>> Shortcuts". >>> 2. Stop interacting and navigate to the "Add an application shortcut" >>> button and press (VO-Space). >>> 3. In the dialog window, change the pop up menu button for the application >>> from "All Applications" to the one that you want (e.g., VO-Space and use >>> arrow keys and/or type the first letters of the name, like "i t" for >>> iTunes), and press return. >>> 4. Then type in the name of the command you want in the text box for "Menu >>> Title:". For example, I created a shortcut for the "Page Setup…" option in >>> the File menu of iTunes this way. (It's something that I'd never want to >>> use, and I'm going to get rid of it right away, but it shows this method >>> works). I typed in "Page Setup…" using the Option+semi-colon shortcut to >>> type the ellipsis at the end of "Setup". >>> 5. Then I typed in a keyboard shortcut, Shift-Control-Option-Command-P, and >>> pressed the "Add" button. >>> 6. I closed the Keyboard window with Command-W. >>> >>> Sure enough, if I'm in the iTunes app, pressing this combination brings up >>> the Page Setup window. However, I immediately went back to the page to >>> delete this shortcut, since I'm never going to use it and just tried this >>> out to make sure I could assign a shortcut this way. If the menu option >>> only appears for a specific application, then you have to select that >>> application before trying to assign the shortcut. I believe there are >>> "Page Setup…" menu options for other applications, but you'll have to set >>> up your shortcut again for those applications. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >>> >>>> Hallo Esther, >>>> >>>> Am 13.02.2012 um 16:19 schrieb Esther: >>>> >>>>> The ellipsis character is typed using a keyboard shortcut with the Option >>>>> key. On a US or other English language input keyboard, this combination >>>>> can be typed by pressing Option+semi-colon. Assuming that you are using >>>>> a German input language keyboard, this combination can be typed by >>>>> pressing Option+period. >>>>> >>>> Thanks for this. >>>> >>>>> However, a more general way to get the exact menu command you need for a >>>>> keyboard shortcut is to use VO-Shift-C, which is the VoiceOver shortcut >>>>> to copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard. Then paste in this >>>>> phrase with Command-V. I usually paste into a TextEdit window as an >>>>> intermediate >>>> >>>> That's what I also do but in that special case it doesn't work. Of course >>>> it works to copy the phrase to the clipboard so that I can paste it. But >>>> what doesn't work is to create a functioning short cut when a menue >>>> command has an elipsis. The chosen short cut apears in the system >>>> preferences but not in the menue of the program. >>>> >>>> Do you have an idea how to solve that issue? Or is it just not possible to >>>> create short cuts for menue commands with elipsisses? >>>> >>>> Thanks and all the best >>>> Jürgen >>>> >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
