Hi, I totally agree with you there.
as I speak, I'm refurbishing a HP Proliant G3 server which is taking some time, some vicious system hacking and a heck of a lot of patience to do. The mac to me is my tool and weapon of choice for all my IT work and I love it. I couldn't move back to a windows system. I couldn't even entertain the thought of jaws in all honesty. my brain would do a force quit if it had to remember windows and jaws commands. lol coming from the days when I first worked on a mac back in 1995, then windows back in 2001 for a couple of years, then coming back to the mac, it was the only way. so I'm relieved that voiceover is my system screen reader of choice. OK there's some bugs in 10.7 with voiceover so I'm sticking with 10.6 on my notebook (macbook pro) and 10.7 on mum's iMac. lol lew On 24 Dec 2011, at 16:46, Gigi wrote: > Hi folks. > This user, who is neither a programmer, developer, or anything techy like > that would like the KISS system. You know, the Keep It Simple System! > > The reason I switched to the Mac was that I was getting tired of updaes it > seemed like every five minutes, updates I had to get my sighted Windows techy > husband to review before I would let my computer do it. Almost a year ago, in > the middle of my email and trying to work, I had my computer updated itself, > killing off Jaws at the same time. When it was all said and done, I had a > partially inaccessible computer, complete with those stupid ribbon things for > Word and Excel, and also complete with an email program that worked fine > until they got through with the update. I had, to make things simpler, to buy > Outlook for $101.65, and I resented every penny. What was really frustrating > is that I couldn't figure out who to contact to tell them how much I didn't > appreciate having my computer messed up. I contacted Freedom Scientific, of > course, but naturally they didn't know about it since Jaws 12 had come out > that very day. > > The second time this happend to me was later in the year, but it wasn't quite > as bad. Therefore, no matter who comes up with a third party screen reader > for the Mac, I don't want it. At least this way, I know who did it and I know > who to write to about it. > > Regards, > Gigi > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:12 AM, William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I global , I find mac and voiceover very nice to work with, more stable then >> a windows-system and jaws or window-eyes and indeed, a lot of the programs >> are useful: twitter, textedit, vmware, iTunes, garageband (I don't use it at >> the moment), pages , a little bit numbers and key note but that isn't very >> useful for productivity I think. >> Further: pear note, to take notes in combination with the record of the >> notes and perhaps some other programs I forgot. >> Also, the trackpad with vo, time-machine, are great tools. >> But , there are also some disadvantages: >> - a slow way of updating : 1 big update in 2 years. >> (the braille bug in the beginning of safari5 was solved after some months) >> but, braille in global on the mac is worse than with most screen readers I >> think. >> I mean: adjusting controls with a custom braille label, moving around the >> screen without any limitation. >> The most windows-screemreaders are doing faster... >> - tables in pages aren't still accessible after asking for a long time by >> many people. >> (this means that you need sometimes sighted assistance or a windows computer >> with screenreader). >> - also , tables in safari aren't not always very confortable to work with. >> - selecting text on safari: there is no way that always works I think while >> on windows with a screenreader, it's the shift-key +arrow keys. >> - the drag and drop function in Lion was presented as a new feature for >> voiceover users while it was introduced in 10.6 but it has never worked. >> In my opinion, that's not a new feature but a bug fix and after a long >> time.... >> - the problems with the voices of nuance in Lion aren't still solved and are >> true for different languages. >> >> Of course, this is all for free but it's also the only screenreader >> available on the mac. >> >> It would be a good idea I think if : >> apple should come with more faster updates with new functions (not necessary >> for free. >> If another screenreader should come on the mac with other advantages. >> >> This are my opinions. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Mr. L. 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