I am using piano pub. That's actually what prompted me to attempt the clean 
lion install; Piano Pub no longer supports Snow
Leopard. Under Snow Leopard, it read beautifully, but for some reason, under 
lion, there are just images where the title and
artist info should be.
I'm going to keep trying to get lion configured, though, now that I spent an 
intire day reinstalling it.
Thanks!
Missy


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Preparing for clean lion install

Hi,
Use PianoPub, it's more accessible than Pandora.


-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:22 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install

Hi,

In Users & Groups, Interact with the Users, Groups and Login Options List, and 
navigate down to Login Options.  stop
Interacting With the List then navigate right until you locate the "Use 
VoiceOver at Login" checkbox.

Sorry, I can't help with Pandora, I don't use it.

Later...

On 2011-11-13, at 12:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message;
> it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some
> weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I can
> do
anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do that command tab since VO 
almost never says anything.
> I went through users and groups, but didn't find  anything pertaining
> to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, but since I'm
> not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much time I'll put
> into getting this fresh install up and running. The main thing I was
curious about was if it would change/improve the way my pandora app read, and 
that did not improve in any way. Thanks for the
help, though. I'll try to investigate things a little bit further.
> Missy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install
>
> Hi,
>
> The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users & Groups.
> Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's
> that use that terminology.  I'm not sure why your computer has the
> "hit and miss" when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've only
> experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented VO
> from
starting right away.  In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I 
determined the error type and eliminated it so
that VO behaved as it should.
>
> Later...
>
> On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>
>> Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned,
>> and so far, I must say that I think it was a complete waste of time.
>> VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find myself
>> stuck in something called T.I. switcher; basicly the exact same
>> problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when lion first came
>> out. The system preferences window seems to have been completely
>> rearranged, and I'm having trouble finding things: most
> noteably where I turn on the option for VO to speak log in windows.
> Since I don't have to log on, it wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes
> an
issue if I'm installing updates that require the machine to be restarted.
>> I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to install
>> a few apps just to say I've made a legitimate effort, but in
>> retrospect, I should have left well enough alone. Thankfully, I
>> cloned my SL drive before all this started, but so far, I'm very
>> disappointed in the lack of difference between the upgrade of lion
>> and the
> clean install. At least based on my experience so far, I have to agree
> with the folks at apple on this one; upgrading is better.
>> If anyone could provide any insite on what I'm doing wrong and why
>> lion is still such a tremendous disappointment, I would really
>> appreciate it. For now, though, I'm off to find the install of CCC.
>> I've
got a feeling I'm going to need it in a few days.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:48 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install
>>
>> The best thing you could do is install all the apps from scratch.
>> After all if your going to go through all the trouble, you might as
>> well start with a truly fresh system. Otherwise, you will be copying
>> things by hand and you may not get everything
> necessary. If nothing else, you will have learned from the experience
> and
that itself is worth the effort.
>> Good luck,
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>
>>> Good evening, all. I'm highly skeptical that this is going to do any
>>> good, but just because I want to say I've made the effort, I'm
>>> getting ready to do a clean install of lion. While I'm doing all my
>>> prep
work:
>>> cloning to external drives to make sure I don't lose anything, I'm
>>> going to listen to Mike's podcast on Lion. I just wanted to write to
>>> the group, though, because I'm curious how I'll go about putting
>>> back apps. Can I restore them from the cloned drives, or do I have
>>> to actually reinstall things? More than anything else, I'm concerned
>>> about the Acapella voices I purchased to use with my mac,
>> but wouldn't mind tips about adium, skype and things of that nature.
>> Also, how do I back up my Itunes purchases. Granted, I've only made
>> two of them, but I don't want to lose them. What about Growl and
>> Yorufukuru? Will I just get those from the app store
> again?
>>> I've got 2 external drives handy, so I'm backing up not only my
>>> current lion install, but also my perfect and up-to-date SL install.
>>> That way, if the clean install still isn't
>> satisfactory, I can put everything back the way it was.
>>> Any advice will be extremely appreciated. I just keep reminding
>>> myself that there's no way I can possibly render the mac entirely
>>> useless, but I don't want to lose any apps, especially not ones that
>>> cost money. So, if anyone has any instructions to share, I
>> would be extremely greatful. Also, once I use my CD, will lion be
>> able to
update itself to 7.2?
>>> OK. Sorry for the rambling, disjointed message. I just am trying
>>> this to give Lion another chance to get into my good
>> graces.
>>> Thank you all very much for your time, and I hope that everyone is
having a great day!
>>> Missy
>>>
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