Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, and so far, 
I must say that I think it was a complete
waste of time. VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find 
myself stuck in something called T.I. switcher;
basicly the exact same problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when 
lion first came out. The system preferences
window seems to have been completely rearranged, and I'm having trouble finding 
things: most noteably where I turn on the
option for VO to speak log in windows. Since I don't have to log on, it 
wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes an issue if I'm
installing updates that require the machine to be restarted.
I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to install a few apps 
just to say I've made a legitimate effort,
but in retrospect, I should have left well enough alone. Thankfully, I cloned 
my SL drive before all this started, but so
far, I'm very disappointed in the lack of difference between the upgrade of 
lion and the clean install. At least based on my
experience so far, I have to agree with the folks at apple on this one; 
upgrading is better.
If anyone could provide any insite on what I'm doing wrong and why lion is 
still such a tremendous disappointment, I would
really appreciate it. For now, though, I'm off to find the install of CCC. I've 
got a feeling I'm going to need it in a few
days.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:48 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install

The best thing you could do is install all the apps from scratch. After all if 
your going to go through all the trouble, you
might as well start with a truly fresh system. Otherwise, you will be copying 
things by hand and you may not get everything
necessary. If nothing else, you will have learned from the experience and that 
itself is worth the effort.
Good luck,

On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Good evening, all. I'm highly skeptical that this is going to do any
> good, but just because I want to say I've made the effort, I'm getting
> ready to do a clean install of lion. While I'm doing all my prep work:
> cloning to external drives to make sure I don't lose anything, I'm
> going to listen to Mike's podcast on Lion. I just wanted to write to
> the group, though, because I'm curious how I'll go about putting back
> apps. Can I restore them from the cloned drives, or do I have to
> actually reinstall things? More than anything else, I'm concerned about the 
> Acapella voices I purchased to use with my mac,
but wouldn't mind tips about adium, skype and things of that nature. Also, how 
do I back up my Itunes purchases. Granted,
I've only made two of them, but I don't want to lose them. What about Growl and 
Yorufukuru? Will I just get those from the
app store again?
> I've got 2 external drives handy, so I'm backing up not only my
> current lion install, but also my perfect and up-to-date SL install. That 
> way, if the clean install still isn't
satisfactory, I can put everything back the way it was.
> Any advice will be extremely appreciated. I just keep reminding myself
> that there's no way I can possibly render the mac entirely useless,
> but I don't want to lose any apps, especially not ones that cost money. So, 
> if anyone has any instructions to share, I
would be extremely greatful. Also, once I use my CD, will lion be able to 
update itself to 7.2?
> OK. Sorry for the rambling, disjointed message. I just am trying this to give 
> Lion another chance to get into my good
graces.
> Thank you all very much for your time, and I hope that everyone is having a 
> great day!
> Missy
>
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