Hi, The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users & Groups. Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's that use that terminology. I'm not sure why your computer has the "hit and miss" when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've only experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented VO from starting right away. In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came on, I determined the error type and eliminated it so that VO behaved as it should.
Later... On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, and so > far, I must say that I think it was a complete > waste of time. VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find > myself stuck in something called T.I. switcher; > basicly the exact same problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when > lion first came out. The system preferences > window seems to have been completely rearranged, and I'm having trouble > finding things: most noteably where I turn on the > option for VO to speak log in windows. Since I don't have to log on, it > wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes an issue if I'm > installing updates that require the machine to be restarted. > I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to install a few > apps just to say I've made a legitimate effort, > but in retrospect, I should have left well enough alone. Thankfully, I cloned > my SL drive before all this started, but so > far, I'm very disappointed in the lack of difference between the upgrade of > lion and the clean install. At least based on my > experience so far, I have to agree with the folks at apple on this one; > upgrading is better. > If anyone could provide any insite on what I'm doing wrong and why lion is > still such a tremendous disappointment, I would > really appreciate it. For now, though, I'm off to find the install of CCC. > I've got a feeling I'm going to need it in a few > days. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:48 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install > > The best thing you could do is install all the apps from scratch. After all > if your going to go through all the trouble, you > might as well start with a truly fresh system. Otherwise, you will be copying > things by hand and you may not get everything > necessary. If nothing else, you will have learned from the experience and > that itself is worth the effort. > Good luck, > > On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Good evening, all. I'm highly skeptical that this is going to do any >> good, but just because I want to say I've made the effort, I'm getting >> ready to do a clean install of lion. While I'm doing all my prep work: >> cloning to external drives to make sure I don't lose anything, I'm >> going to listen to Mike's podcast on Lion. I just wanted to write to >> the group, though, because I'm curious how I'll go about putting back >> apps. Can I restore them from the cloned drives, or do I have to >> actually reinstall things? More than anything else, I'm concerned about the >> Acapella voices I purchased to use with my mac, > but wouldn't mind tips about adium, skype and things of that nature. Also, > how do I back up my Itunes purchases. Granted, > I've only made two of them, but I don't want to lose them. What about Growl > and Yorufukuru? Will I just get those from the > app store again? >> I've got 2 external drives handy, so I'm backing up not only my >> current lion install, but also my perfect and up-to-date SL install. That >> way, if the clean install still isn't > satisfactory, I can put everything back the way it was. >> Any advice will be extremely appreciated. I just keep reminding myself >> that there's no way I can possibly render the mac entirely useless, >> but I don't want to lose any apps, especially not ones that cost money. So, >> if anyone has any instructions to share, I > would be extremely greatful. Also, once I use my CD, will lion be able to > update itself to 7.2? >> OK. Sorry for the rambling, disjointed message. I just am trying this to >> give Lion another chance to get into my good > graces. >> Thank you all very much for your time, and I hope that everyone is having a >> great day! >> Missy >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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