Hi,

no.  You can't access all features that you could by using gestures on the 
touch screen but, most of them.  For example, you can't use a keyboard to 
delete applications or bring up the item chooser.

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 26, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

> Gigi,
> 
> Where can I get a keyboard?
> Will I be able to use all the features of my iPod with a keyboard?
> 
> On 26/10/2011, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Hi again.
>> Let me see if I can clear this up. First, many of us, maybe most of us,
>> learned to touch type early in life. Myself, I learned in the fourth grade.
>> The keyboard on the iPhone and other devices like that is arranged like a
>> typewriter, so when my blind friend told me the arrangement was exactly like
>> the old typewriters, I was clued in right away. It seems that most blind
>> people prefer to use touch typing. There's another option on the iPhone or
>> iPad, etc.where you can use standard typing which requires split or double
>> tapping to make the keys respond. But touch typing involves going around the
>> screen and the phone says what key you landed on, and you pick up your
>> finger. Now, after a little practice, you can get pretty accurate at landing
>> on the key you need without hearing each one. It is faster for me to use a
>> keyboard that I just got, but I can input with the onscreen keyboard if need
>> be. I hope this explanation helps.
>> 
>> You may want to get a keyboard so that you can more easily do your typing on
>> the iPhone, iPad, etc. If that's not possible, you might want to set your
>> device on touch typing. To do that, you check your roter first. The roter is
>> a way to make choices on the device. Take two fingers and twist your hand
>> either to the left or right like you are dialing an old-time phone or
>> turning an old radio dial. Don;'t do it very far, and do it a little slowly
>> so that VoiceOver has a chance to say what you are landing on. When you hear
>> it say typing, then you can take one finger toward the bottom of the screen
>> and flick it I think toward the top of the screen. If doesn't work, go the
>> other way. When it says touch typing, then you have set the device so that
>> you can make letters by touching them and then picking up your finger.
>> VoiceOver will say the letter in a different voice when it accepts the
>> letter.
>> 
>> It takes a little practice to do the roter, but it's worth it so that you
>> don't have to go to settings all the time. If you can't do the roter,
>> however, you can go to VoiceOver settings and set the roter to do touch
>> typing from there.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2011, at 6:47 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your tips and encouragement.
>>> I always read great things about these Apple devices on the Internet
>>> and get encouraged, but I really get frustrated when they don't work
>>> properly for me.
>>> BTW, I have a question.
>>> How do you people manage to find out which alphabet is which on a
>>> touchscreen?
>>> You can easily locate all the keys on a normal keyboard after a bit of
>>> practice, but how can you do that on a device which has a touchscreen?
>>> 
>>> On 25/10/2011, Gigi <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi guys.
>>>> I would also like  to add to what Teresa said about devices like the iPad
>>>> and the iPhone. I also use split tapping. Split tapping is when your
>>>> finger
>>>> is on an item you would like to select. Just take one of your other
>>>> fingers,
>>>> and lay it on the screen without moving the one you are using to go
>>>> around
>>>> the screen. Even if you don't use this command, it's good to know about
>>>> this
>>>> command because there are times you might accidentally make a choice you
>>>> didn't intend and you will know that's what you did. Also, sometimes it's
>>>> good to make a choice without moving your finger. I use split tapping all
>>>> the time, and I also use the ones Teresa mentioned.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, Rahul,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can start with your home screen.  You can explore it by moving one
>>>>> finger around on the screen. As you move, VO tells you which items are
>>>>> under your finger. Along the bottom of the screen are 4 applications.
>>>>> The
>>>>> home screen has different "pages", but the four things at the bottom of
>>>>> the screen in the dock area are always there. Next, you can try swiping
>>>>> a
>>>>> finger to the right. This will take you to the next item, and swiping
>>>>> left
>>>>> will take you to the previous item.
>>>>> 
>>>>> to open an application, you can find it and double-tap on it. I'm fairly
>>>>> sure that if you find Safari on the bottom dock area and double-tap it,
>>>>> you'll land on the page for the manual. In any document, such as a web
>>>>> page, you can swipe down with two fingers from near the top and it will
>>>>> read continuously. Tap once with two fingers to pause and restart it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This will get you started. Once you're more comfortable navigating, you
>>>>> can explore the gesture practice in the VO settings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> "Visualize whirled peas."
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 24, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a 4th generation iPod Touch, but I am not being able to use it
>>>>>> with VoiceOver.
>>>>>> VO reads everything that's given on the screen, but I really don't
>>>>>> know how to move forward.
>>>>>> I have never used a device with a touchscreen before, so that could be
>>>>>> the reason for the problem I'm facing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, can anyone here give some tips that might be useful?
>>>>>> I really want to be able to use my iPod Touch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Rahul
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