This has to be tested. It's always interesting to learn new things. /Krister 24 jul 2011 kl. 13:14 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland:
> To jump between the pages, hit ctrl+Tab. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krister Ekstrom" > <kris...@kristersplace.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion > > > Mmm, true, but on the IPhone, there's a button you'll have to press in order > to see other pages than the one that has focus, and the focused page is the > one that's opened last. Oh well, cmd+opt+q seems to be my best friend at the > moment… Btw, the one question we haven't asked in our frustration is how does > one jump between pages that are opened? > > /Krister > 24 jul 2011 kl. 02:14 skrev John Panarese: > >> Keep in mind that Lion resembles iOS. The look and feel of Lion is >> intended to be like the iPhone or iPad. For example, the new view in mail >> is like what one finds on the iPad. So, the applications are going to start >> to be like those we find in the iOS environment. >> >> Take Care >> >> John Panarese >> jpanar...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:53 PM, Shen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Thanks for that tip, I will remember to do that from now on. Although I >>> really don't understand why Apple would change this behavior from before. >>> And there is no option under Safari menu to close all windows and quit. >>> I think this is going to be a problem. Say you go to a website, and for >>> some reason, Safari crashes, and it is not responding. This has happened to >>> me more often with Safari than any other browser I've used. >>> You need to force quit Safari in order to close it. The next time you open >>> Safari, guess what, it's going to open the last page it had, which is the >>> page that crashed, you are stuck. >>> Unless there is a way to open Safari without opening any windows, similar >>> to the way if you hold down the Options key while opening iTunes, you will >>> be prompted for a library. >>> I tried this, no luck. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> John is correct. As mentioned in a separate thread, you can use the >>>> cmd-option-q which will Quit and Discard Windows, thus allowing you to >>>> startup Safari from your Homepage. Alternatively, you can go into your >>>> system Preferences, select the General pane and uncheck the box for >>>> Recovering Windows. It sometimes doesn't take effect right away, but it >>>> will. If you have problems with this, please repost and someone will >>>> assist. >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> On 2011-07-23, at 2:11 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>> >>>>> Have you tried quitting Safari with, option-command-q instead of just >>>>> command-q? I believe this will close all of the active Safari Windows >>>>> and will not have them open next time you start Safari. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> >>>>> John Panarese >>>>> jpanar...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Shen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Teresa, >>>>>> I saw that too, but it's not a checkbox. It's an option that lets Safari >>>>>> open all the windows from the last session. >>>>>> So that doesn't work. >>>>>> Looks like 1 way of doing this is when I am done and about to quit >>>>>> Safari, close all tabs and windows, then open my home page, then quit. >>>>>> I can't imagine there is no way to just open the home page instead of >>>>>> all windows from last session. Otherwise, what's the point of a home >>>>>> page? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In the history menu in Safari, uncheck "Reopen all windows from last >>>>>>> session". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Shen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I >>>>>>>> prefer to have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is now >>>>>>>> opening all the pages I had open the last time I quite Safari. As far >>>>>>>> as I can find, there is no setting to change that. The other little >>>>>>>> quirk I have is whenever a page is done loading, VoiceOver doesn't >>>>>>>> always put me in the html content and start interacting with it. I >>>>>>>> have to press VO-Shift-Down Arrow to start interacting with it. The >>>>>>>> second issue is not that bad, but just a little annoying. >>>>>>>> I sure would like to know if I can get Safari to open only my home >>>>>>>> page and not all the tabs and windows I had open the last time before >>>>>>>> quitting Safari. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's >>>>>>>>> an issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround for the >>>>>>>>> thing, if not, ask a question here, after the frustration has >>>>>>>>> settled, and if that doesn't help, write a polite letter to Apples >>>>>>>>> Accessibility team. I've got a couple issues i'm investigating now, >>>>>>>>> one of them are on-topic here, and it's about how i go about having >>>>>>>>> Safari not to open all the pages i had up last every time i open a >>>>>>>>> new page. It makes sense when first starting Safari directly, but if >>>>>>>>> there's a page i want to read, i don't want to have to close all the >>>>>>>>> other pages that pop up and taking focus away from the page i want to >>>>>>>>> read. Surely there must be a setting somewhere, only i can't find it. >>>>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or >>>>>>>>>> lion. The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, >>>>>>>>>> freedom scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and >>>>>>>>>> safari apparently can't handle direct ftp links. If you REALLY want >>>>>>>>>> to download Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for http downloads. >>>>>>>>>> Frankly, the whole item chooser thing really doesn't bother me much >>>>>>>>>> as the web roder has always worked for me and that is for the web. >>>>>>>>>> I am glad I upgraded, and I'm even getting used to the new mail. I >>>>>>>>>> think we all just need to calm down a bit. As far as apple not >>>>>>>>>> caring, just because they don't talk to us doesn't mean they don't >>>>>>>>>> care. They don't talk to anyone, it's as simple as that. Missy, I >>>>>>>>>> really hope you get your power situation straightened out, but I >>>>>>>>>> don't think that is a lion issue either. Calm down everyone. :) >>>>>>>>>> Chris Westbrook >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. >>>>>>>>>>> Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since >>>>>>>>>>> Lion came out so don't expect these problems to just magically go >>>>>>>>>>> away. >>>>>>>>>>> If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. >>>>>>>>>>> It can be done easily enough if you have a recent backup. >>>>>>>>>>> Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this is >>>>>>>>>>> starting to become not VO related anymore. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and for those that need too, chill! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris: >>>>>>>>>>>> Do yourself and all of us a favor: >>>>>>>>>>>> Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a >>>>>>>>>>>> pointless rave like this. No one really needs to hear it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, >>>>>>>>>>>>> why in the heck is it, that if I go to either >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Or: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hj.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>> happening here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick >>>>>>>>>>>>> with me, it gets even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just >>>>>>>>>>>>> setting some ground... anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you won't get the downloads link, yet if you use vo+U and go to >>>>>>>>>>>>> links in the roter, then! do it, it works, then go to jaws for >>>>>>>>>>>>> windows screen reading software, then try to find the jaws 12 >>>>>>>>>>>>> download link, if you hit vo+space on that link, Safari says the >>>>>>>>>>>>> page cannot be found. Now, here's the weird part. If I try this >>>>>>>>>>>>> from my xp pro sp3 machine with either I E, or Firefox, then hit >>>>>>>>>>>>> enter on the link, same network l A n, same public I P address, >>>>>>>>>>>>> same internet connection, etc. same d h c p, same d n s, same >>>>>>>>>>>>> router, nothing changes but the platform, the download works like >>>>>>>>>>>>> a charm! Let me say this, no jokes. I've had a really rough day, >>>>>>>>>>>>> and quite frankly am not in the mood for the smart mouth >>>>>>>>>>>>> comments, like, well yeah, Jobs hates FS so he blocked you from >>>>>>>>>>>>> the site, or why would you compare jaws to VO, or want to >>>>>>>>>>>>> download the fish... you may have a point, but no you really >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, OK. This isn't about one screen reader being better than >>>>>>>>>>>>> another. this is about the item chooser, and the router, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>> downloading in Safari consistently across many pages be very >>>>>>>>>>>>> inconsistently odd in behavior. Take it as such. If you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>> offer anything resourcesful and just wanna throw lookie jokes >>>>>>>>>>>>> around, look, I'm not tonight as I would normally be, in the mood >>>>>>>>>>>>> for it. OK? Please, if you all test and find the same thing, let >>>>>>>>>>>>> me know. I'd be interested if anyone knows why the things in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Safari have to be so d*** annoying. I'm frustrated yes, the mods >>>>>>>>>>>>> could say that and that I need to chill, and I'm willing to, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> people, come on! I mean, really, one could argue, I'm not the >>>>>>>>>>>>> one who decided to jup into Lion right away. You're right. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon. But, that really isn't your >>>>>>>>>>>>> right to say. The thing is, I'm getting more stressed with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lion update by the minute. What ticks me off more though is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way or another, ar at >>>>>>>>>>>>> least it doesn't appear that way, but I'll explain more about >>>>>>>>>>>>> that in another more rellavant post. 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