To jump between the pages, hit ctrl+Tab.
Chris.
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From: "Krister Ekstrom" <kris...@kristersplace.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion
Mmm, true, but on the IPhone, there's a button you'll have to press in order
to see other pages than the one that has focus, and the focused page is the
one that's opened last. Oh well, cmd+opt+q seems to be my best friend at the
moment… Btw, the one question we haven't asked in our frustration is how
does one jump between pages that are opened?
/Krister
24 jul 2011 kl. 02:14 skrev John Panarese:
Keep in mind that Lion resembles iOS. The look and feel of Lion is
intended to be like the iPhone or iPad. For example, the new view in mail
is like what one finds on the iPad. So, the applications are going to
start to be like those we find in the iOS environment.
Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com
On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:53 PM, Shen wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for that tip, I will remember to do that from now on. Although I
really don't understand why Apple would change this behavior from before.
And there is no option under Safari menu to close all windows and quit.
I think this is going to be a problem. Say you go to a website, and for
some reason, Safari crashes, and it is not responding. This has happened
to me more often with Safari than any other browser I've used.
You need to force quit Safari in order to close it. The next time you
open Safari, guess what, it's going to open the last page it had, which
is the page that crashed, you are stuck.
Unless there is a way to open Safari without opening any windows, similar
to the way if you hold down the Options key while opening iTunes, you
will be prompted for a library.
I tried this, no luck.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,
John is correct. As mentioned in a separate thread, you can use the
cmd-option-q which will Quit and Discard Windows, thus allowing you to
startup Safari from your Homepage. Alternatively, you can go into your
system Preferences, select the General pane and uncheck the box for
Recovering Windows. It sometimes doesn't take effect right away, but it
will. If you have problems with this, please repost and someone will
assist.
Later…
On 2011-07-23, at 2:11 PM, John Panarese wrote:
Have you tried quitting Safari with, option-command-q instead of just
command-q? I believe this will close all of the active Safari Windows
and will not have them open next time you start Safari.
Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com
On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Shen wrote:
Teresa,
I saw that too, but it's not a checkbox. It's an option that lets
Safari open all the windows from the last session.
So that doesn't work.
Looks like 1 way of doing this is when I am done and about to quit
Safari, close all tabs and windows, then open my home page, then quit.
I can't imagine there is no way to just open the home page instead of
all windows from last session. Otherwise, what's the point of a home
page?
On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
In the history menu in Safari, uncheck "Reopen all windows from last
session".
HTH,
Teresa
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Shen wrote:
Hello,
Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I
prefer to have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is
now opening all the pages I had open the last time I quite Safari.
As far as I can find, there is no setting to change that. The other
little quirk I have is whenever a page is done loading, VoiceOver
doesn't always put me in the html content and start interacting with
it. I have to press VO-Shift-Down Arrow to start interacting with
it. The second issue is not that bad, but just a little annoying.
I sure would like to know if I can get Safari to open only my home
page and not all the tabs and windows I had open the last time
before quitting Safari.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If
there's an issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround
for the thing, if not, ask a question here, after the frustration
has settled, and if that doesn't help, write a polite letter to
Apples Accessibility team. I've got a couple issues i'm
investigating now, one of them are on-topic here, and it's about
how i go about having Safari not to open all the pages i had up
last every time i open a new page. It makes sense when first
starting Safari directly, but if there's a page i want to read, i
don't want to have to close all the other pages that pop up and
taking focus away from the page i want to read. Surely there must
be a setting somewhere, only i can't find it.
/Krister
23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook:
And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo
or lion. The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by
default, freedom scientific offers direct ftp links to their
downloads and safari apparently can't handle direct ftp links. If
you REALLY want to download Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for
http downloads. Frankly, the whole item chooser thing really
doesn't bother me much as the web roder has always worked for me
and that is for the web. I am glad I upgraded, and I'm even
getting used to the new mail. I think we all just need to calm
down a bit. As far as apple not caring, just because they don't
talk to us doesn't mean they don't care. They don't talk to
anyone, it's as simple as that. Missy, I really hope you get your
power situation straightened out, but I don't think that is a lion
issue either. Calm down everyone. :)
Chris Westbrook
On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
Hi guys.
Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days
since Lion came out so don't expect these problems to just
magically go away.
If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to
SL. It can be done easily enough if you have a recent backup.
Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this
is starting to become not VO related anymore.
Thanks and for those that need too, chill!
On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
Hi Chris:
Do yourself and all of us a favor:
Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing
a pointless rave like this. No one really needs to hear it.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this,
but, why in the heck is it, that if I go to either
http://www.freedomscientific.com
Or:
http://www.hj.com
Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff
happening here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick
with me, it gets even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm
just setting some ground... anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d
o w, you won't get the downloads link, yet if you use vo+U and
go to links in the roter, then! do it, it works, then go to
jaws for windows screen reading software, then try to find the
jaws 12 download link, if you hit vo+space on that link, Safari
says the page cannot be found. Now, here's the weird part. If
I try this from my xp pro sp3 machine with either I E, or
Firefox, then hit enter on the link, same network l A n, same
public I P address, same internet connection, etc. same d h c
p, same d n s, same router, nothing changes but the platform,
the download works like a charm! Let me say this, no jokes.
I've had a really rough day, and quite frankly am not in the
mood for the smart mouth comments, like, well yeah, Jobs hates
FS so he blocked you from the site, or why would you compare
jaws to VO, or want to download the fish... you may have a
point, but no you really don't, OK. This isn't about one
screen reader being better than another. this is about the
item chooser, and the router, and the downloading in Safari
consistently across many pages be very inconsistently odd in
behavior. Take it as such. If you can't offer anything
resourcesful and just wanna throw lookie jokes around, look,
I'm not tonight as I would normally be, in the mood for it.
OK? Please, if you all test and find the same thing, let me
know. I'd be interested if anyone knows why the things in
Safari have to be so d*** annoying. I'm frustrated yes, the
mods could say that and that I need to chill, and I'm willing
to, but people, come on! I mean, really, one could argue, I'm
not the one who decided to jup into Lion right away. You're
right. Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon. But, that really
isn't your right to say. The thing is, I'm getting more
stressed with the Lion update by the minute. What ticks me off
more though is Apple doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way
or another, ar at least it doesn't appear that way, but I'll
explain more about that in another more rellavant post. It's
making my experience though not very enjoyable, I tell ya that!
though.
Chris.
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