yes but when an ap WAS accessible and no longer is that should be criminal and is disghusting let's hope that they give a damn and fix it if all developers didn't care abot s we wouldn't have the mac at all and i think apple does realise that alot of us are trning to the mac for accessibility and I hope they understand that we will turn as quickly away and sell our expensive pretty machies if they become inaccessible On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
> Er, apologies for the reference to the iTunes store. I forgot which > list I was writing to. > > My point stands though. It is not realistic to assume that every Mac > application should be voiceover friendly before the developer can make > money from it. > > Jim > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 04:39:40PM -0800, Jim Barbour wrote: >> Are you suggesting that every developer should make sure that every >> app is VO accessible before the app store carries it? That wuld be >> tantamount to saying that every app must be availble in, insert >> obscure written language here, before it could be sold in the iTunes >> store. >> >> So, I say to pick your battles and try to be nice to the folks you're >> negotiating with. >> >> Jim >> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 04:27:51PM -0800, louie wrote: >>> Like I said they don't care and they don't have to. >>> Every one that put me down for saying the above what do you have to say now. >>> >>> On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> >>>> well honestly I don't think it matters what we do short of a class action >>>> lawsuit because like most things noone cares unless you bust them over >>>> the head with a 2x4 lol most buisness people I uspect are abotu as >>>> stubborn as mules >>>> >>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sounds typically militant. >>>>> >>>>> You won't get any results with a message like this. It's the quickest >>>>> way to get your requests sent to /dev/null. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Look, here's how I see it. They've been telling us for about two years >>>>>> that they know about the accessibility issues witth Drop Box. Every >>>>>> single time one of us writes them about it, all we hear back is, "We're >>>>>> aware of the problem". I reckon it's high time one of us or maybe a >>>>>> bunch of us wrote them and frankly said something like this: >>>>>> >>>>>> " >>>>>> "Every single time any one of us has written you about the accessibility >>>>>> problems we've been having with Drop Box, all we hear from you is, >>>>>> ""We're aware of it and are working on it."". Really? Where's the >>>>>> evidence of your work? You keep saying that you are aware, yet, we see >>>>>> no results. To speak frankly, we are beginning to wonder wheterh or >>>>>> not you really actually care; even if you are aware. What do we have to >>>>>> do to make you understand that, if we're going to use your service, >>>>>> (especially if we're going to pay for it), we'd better be able to use >>>>>> it? What will it take?". Yes, I think at least one of us; or, as I >>>>>> said before, a number of us, ought to just put it out on the table just >>>>>> like that. Just one of us isn't enough. We need to do this on a daily >>>>>> basis until they realize that we WILL, NOT, BE, IGNORED!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>>>> Skype name: >>>>>> barefootedray >>>>>> >>>>>> Facebook: >>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> O can set it up fine. But you have a point there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22/02/2011, at 0:31, Jes Smith <theeternal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, the complete inaccessibility of Drop Box on >>>>>>>> the Mac is inexcusable. And, I tell you this, if I was the CEO of >>>>>>>> Apple, developers would either write their code based on Apple's >>>>>>>> accessibility guidelines, or, there programs would just be rejected. >>>>>>>> IT's a black and white issue as far as I'm concerned. >>>>>>>> I mean, mercy! IT's bad enough that we couldn't access the drop box >>>>>>>> menu, but now that we can't even set the client up without sighted >>>>>>>> help? And honestly, I don't think petitions would do a lot for our >>>>>>>> cause. Individual complaints have been sent to drop box for over two >>>>>>>> years, and they've done nothing to show us that they hear our cries >>>>>>>> for accessibility. 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