Thanks Jim.  I got an app on my iPhone that only offers m4r  files.  I'm glad I 
don't have to go through all that other stuff!

Marlaina
On Dec 5, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Jim Barbour wrote:

Hello,

Here's a rehash of a message I posted to the viphone list a while ago
about getting ringtones from the iTunes store and a little about
creating your own from scratch.

Enjoy, and feel free to reply with questions.

Jim

-----------------

Hey Everyone,

I spent some time playing with ringtones this morning.  Here are a few
things to note.

First, one can not buy ringtones directly from the iTunes store.  Even
if one searches for ringtones, what one can find and buy is an m4a
(music) version of the file.   To create ringtones with iTunes, 
one has to buy the music file first, and then pay the iTunes store an
additional 99 cents before iTunes will convert that music file into a
ringtone.  Let me reiterate this, if you are going to use the iTunes
store to get ringtones, you have to pay the iTunes store twice.  Once
to buy the music, and then again to pay for permission to convert it
to a ringtone.

Once you've decided to pay the extra 99 cents to the apple store,
here's how you make a ringtone.

1) In the menu bar, go to Edit, Preferences, and make sure Ringtones
  is checked.

2) find the music file you want to make a ring tone out of, and select
  it.  Again, it must be music that was purchased from the iTunes store.

3) in the menu bar, Go to store, create ringtone.  This brings up a
  sound editor kind of like Goldwave.  From here, you select the 30
  seconds of audio you want.  Note that voiceover doesn't work with
  this part, so if you don't have sighted assistance you're stuck
  with the first 30 seconds of the song, which is the default
  selection.

4) click the buy button.

5) The ringtone will download and appear in your ringtones folder.

Finally, let me point out that one does not need to use iTunes to
create ringtones, but other methods require additional software to do
your music editing, and a lot of general fiddling around with files.

here are the basic steps, without the details of how to use each program.
Several of us on this list know how to use Goldwave and iTunes if you
need assistance.

  1) Take your music file and use an audio editor (like Goldwave) to
     create a ringtone segment.  That is, a small (30 secs or less)
     slice of the music, that will be your ringtone.   Note that
     Goldwave can read and edit AAC files (files you bought from the
     iTunes store), but will save your segment as an mp3 file.

  2) Use iTunes to convert this segment to AAC format.  NOTE: if you
     can't find a "convert to AAC" option in the applications menu,
     check your CD import settings and make sure they are set to
     import CDs as AAC files.

  3) Rename the new segment file from whatever.m4a to whatever.m4r

  4) In iTunes, import the .m4r file.  control+o will bring up the
     import dialog, and then find and import the .m4r file.  This
     will put the m4r file in your ringtones folder, and will sync it
     to your iPhone.

I hope this sheds some light on this.

Take Care Everyone,

Jim

On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 10:41:15AM -0800, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Tim,
> 
> Is this the method I can also use to get ring tones into my library?  God 
> knows then how I'll get them to my phone, I'm hoping a sync will do it, but 
> first I have to figure out how to get them from downloads to my library.  I'm 
> going to try your instructions below.
> 
> Marlaina
> 
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
> Hi chenelle,
> 
> If you've imported an Audio Book from CD and you wish it to be placed in the 
> books portion of the sources List, do the following:
> 
> 1.  Select the book or books from the music library and then press cmd-i for 
> Get Info.
> 2.  Press on the Options tab.
> 3.  Press on the Kind pop-up and change it to Audio Book.
> 4.  Press OK.
> 
> All items that were selected will now be placed in the Books area of the 
> Sources List.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2010-12-05, at 10:50 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
> 
>> 
>> hi eric,
>> i wanted to know  when putting  audio compact disc books like in the case of 
>> the harry potter series. how do i devide m my music library and the audio 
>> book library? also  this question can be answered off list if possible. i 
>> wanted to know where i could go to purchase the harry potter  united kingdom 
>>  editions at? fill free to email me with  your answer to that question. 
>> i really appreciate it.
>> sincerely, chenelle
>> thanks again eric.
>> 
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