Hi Erik,

wow this is great news.  I have a need for both a braille display and a 
notetaker here at work, so I'm really glad to hear that the sense can serve 
both functions.  thanks for the info.
Donna
On Nov 19, 2010, at 6:51 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> They have the braille sense working quite nicely with mac OS at this point.  
> You can transfer files back and fourth using mobile disc mode, or you can use 
> it as a usb or bluetooth braille terminal.
> 
> The sense is just ridiculous with jaws and you can forget all about it since 
> driver signing emerged in version 11.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
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> 
> On 2010-11-19, at 6:30 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Erik,
>> 
>> Are you saying that the braille sense works as a braille display with the 
>> Mac?  I had so many headaches trying to get it to work with JAWs that I 
>> didn't even try.  This would be very handy if it does.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> On Nov 19, 2010, at 6:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hum,  Well, the victor stream and booksense both work on the mack.  
>>> Braillesense works.  Braille note apex works as a braille terminal.  I 
>>> haven't tested file transfering capabilities.  I haven't tested packmate, 
>>> but so far that looks to me like more than 10% of notetaking devices right 
>>> there, more like 50 percent between compatible and non.  Then add the 
>>> braille display support with read/write.  Not everything works beautifully, 
>>> but then it doesn't do that under windows either.  Your vr might want to do 
>>> a little more research.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, it's much easier to justify the mac for a student if the 
>>> student is in a mac school.  If the school is all outfitted with windows 
>>> and all the classes are geared to windows, then it doesn't follow that a 
>>> mac won't work, it just seems to make it easier on the student and their 
>>> teachers and support people to be using windows like everyone else in the 
>>> class.
>>> 
>>> And before the uproar hits, I know just as many die hard mac users blind 
>>> and sighted who got there in this exact way.  Their school used macs, so 
>>> they used macs and never dealt with windows.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
>>> person,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-18, at 6:01 PM, eddy wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hey eveyone, I am a mac os x user who really likes the way voice over
>>>> works. I have organizations like. DBS division of blind servises and
>>>> other giving their clients who request computers Dell laptops with
>>>> Jaws screen reader installed. what I am aware of is that Jaws alone is
>>>> more than a thousand dollars recently I her two thousand. I wonder why
>>>> organizations like DBS don't just give their client a macbook or a
>>>> machbook pro and be done with it. then they whon't have to pay for
>>>> Jay. and the client can use voice  over which in  my opinion has a
>>>> shorter learning curve. I also recently asked a Vision teacher or V.I
>>>> teacher and she answered that at leat 70=90 percent  of note takers,
>>>> and all other digital devices are not comopatible with mac os x.
>>>> I would like to know what you guys think about this. and if there are
>>>> any high school and college students who are blind or visually
>>>> impaired, Is  a Mac with voice over sufficient enough for all school
>>>> work or do you still need a note taker?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thank you
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