Eric, Maybe we need to take this off list so we don't get in trouble from the moderators . So I will email you directly (unless the world really wants to hear my story lol).
Chris On 1 Oct 2010, at 10:49, Eric Oyen wrote: > I am learning grade 1 now (on my own). the state seems to think that learning > braille isn't an "immediate need". Frankly, I think it is (along with > independent living skills and O&M training). They have on the priority 1 > group but have deferred my status indefinitely (my case comes up for review > again in 6 months). I find that to be unacceptable as I need training for > jobs I am being offered NOW. no training = no job. Sometimes I don't > understand why they are so penny wise and pound foolish. An employed disabled > person is still a return on investment rather than a drain on the system. > > so? how did you lose your eyesight? > -Eric > > On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> I have only just started learning grade 1 braille. Fortunately I can touch >> type so I don't need any braille on my keyboard. Or am I missing something >> here? >> >> >> chris >> On 1 Oct 2010, at 09:35, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> tried that. I got no response from the live chat. it seems that something >>> is amiss between safari and voiceover. I have posted a support request with >>> apple. it may be a while before they respond. >>> >>> btw, if you can, get some braille overlays for your keyboard, this will >>> facilitate learning braille while you type. see my page at >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/VisionlessOne >>> >>> I talk about the keyboard overlays. >>> you can find them on amazon.com. frankly, they are a bit overpriced for >>> what they are. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> >>> On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>> >>>> Eric you are in good company as I went totally blind a few months ago too. >>>> >>>> Not sure if this will help your problem, but have you tried turning >>>> keyboard tracking off? You can do this by pressing VO+Shift+F3, simply >>>> press this when in the chat window (not the edit box) and then press >>>> VO+End if you want to be at the bottom of the chat window. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> On 30 Sep 2010, at 19:25, Eric Oyen wrote: >>>> >>>>> hello, >>>>> I seem to be having a problem getting voiceover to track live chats on an >>>>> html page (in this case: kingdom of loathing). I see this problem in >>>>> other gui related chat clients (like skype and xchat irc client). is >>>>> there a setting I can find that will change this behavior. so far, I am >>>>> inundated with all the commands in the help menu and it takes a rather >>>>> long time to read through all of them. >>>>> >>>>> it probably won't hurt you know that I am recently totally blind (less >>>>> than 3 months) and I am still learning the basics of voiceover. >>>>> >>>>> any help you can offer I would greatly appreciate. >>>>> >>>>> Eric Oyen - N7ZZT >>>>> Phoenix Arizona >>>>> Geocode: >>>>> 33.488462 -112.234926 >>>>> N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> Eric Oyen - N7ZZT >>> Phoenix Arizona >>> Geocode: >>> 33.488462 -112.234926 >>> N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT > Phoenix Arizona > Geocode: > 33.488462 -112.234926 > N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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