Hey thanks for the info on Ipal, it sounds interesting.

On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:11 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Laughs, scott,  Iwork is cheeper than VMware fusion unless you can catch one 
> of their big discount sales.  They could boost your productivity with not 
> much effort at all, but I know the gears grind slowly.  Hopefully you don't 
> have to wait five years for Iwork.
> 
> IPal is the big new line of digital camera based OCR thingies.  What we're 
> talking about here is a camera on a trypod, connected to your mac via usb.  
> You put your book or paper under the camera and push the button, then 
> software on your mac converts the image to text and reads it aloud for you.  
> It's been a going concern on the windows side for about a year, and I've been 
> hearing vague roomers that it's coming to the mac.  When it does, I am there. 
>  
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> On 2010-08-31, at 5:07 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Hey Erik,
>> 
>> I've been a Mac user for about five years and I finally got my employer to 
>> allow me the ability to have a Mac with a WIndows VM. Now they know they 
>> will never get me to switch back. I still have to use Windows because of 
>> compatibility with certain web applications, but my hope is this will change 
>> as well and yes, I am forced to still use Word, Excel, and Power Point 
>> because they have not yet gotten iWorks for me. One thing at a time, but hey 
>> the big step was achieved and now they will allow anyone who wants a Mac to 
>> have a VM as well. Btw, IPal? That sounds familiar, but cannot recall what 
>> that is exactly.
>> 
>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:52 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott, you are taking my exact path to the mac, so it's the voice of 
>>> experience talking, smiles.  It took me 6 months to a year before I was 
>>> switched over.  I virtualised my windows and backed up all the programs and 
>>> settings I'd acquired over the years in my VM.  Then every once in a while, 
>>> I'd get assed opening my vm to do some menial computer chore and go, "ah 
>>> the hell with it, I'll just spend half an hour to an hour looking up a good 
>>> program for this that or the other thing, and never have to worry about it 
>>> again".  It took a long time to chip my windows reliance down, especially 
>>> since I have to teach windows and will very soon have a win7 virtual 
>>> machine here for testing purposes, but it was worth the time and effort.  
>>> Now I fly around the mac, and as far as I know, I'm the best mac trainer in 
>>> the province.  That hasn't hurt me any.
>>> 
>>> These days I am drooling over the possibility of IPal being released for 
>>> the mac.  At that point I think I could very happily shred my virtual 
>>> machines and have a lot of electronic confetti for the new years eve lan 
>>> party, except of course that I still need to teach windows.
>>> 
>>> Have fun,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
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>>> box.
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>>> subscribe.
>>> 
>>> On 2010-08-31, at 11:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Erik, I couldn't agree more.
>>>> 
>>>> Having the VM is a great tool for migration.  I am already finding I fire 
>>>> it up and use it less and less.  I'll figure out the mail sooner than 
>>>> later and go with open office or IWork if it comes down to it.  My goal is 
>>>> to drop Windows entirely and uaving it available in a VM player is a 
>>>> wonderful way to slowly migrate off.  Also, having the ability to run 
>>>> other images is very valuable.
>>>> 
>>>> Erik nailed it exactly
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Andy,  I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder 
>>>>> than it looks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes 
>>>>> that all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is 
>>>>> set up to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up 
>>>>> exchange.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon 
>>>>> to set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for 
>>>>> his virtual machine.  Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to 
>>>>> fall back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and 
>>>>> productivity is an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most 
>>>>> expedient thing.  That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that 
>>>>> it doesn't do a good job of exchange.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille 
>>>>> box.
>>>>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
>>>>> subscribe.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to use Windows for many tasks.  I guess that shows that the Mac still 
>>>>>> has a
>>>>>> way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer
>>>>>> productivity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, that works.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There's always open office as well.  I have VM Fusion working correctly
>>>>>> though so that's a good solution.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi.  Office on the mac is not vo accessible.  Office, if you must use 
>>>>>>> it, will work fine on the windows side.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet?  I know you can use pop3 
>>>>>>> and imap.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I have installed the mac version of MS Office.  Is this accessable?  
>>>>>>> It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new 
>>>>>>> messages or replying / responding seems problematic.  Any tricks here 
>>>>>>> or should I just use office under windows?  My reason for using office 
>>>>>>> is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your 
>>>>>>> protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>> 
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