You knw what else is nice about using a VM is that I can back up the whole 
image file and restore easily with out having to worry about jfw installations 
etc.

We use VMWare extensively at work so it's nice to be using that on the desk top 
now.

On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:52 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi Scott, you are taking my exact path to the mac, so it's the voice of 
> experience talking, smiles.  It took me 6 months to a year before I was 
> switched over.  I virtualised my windows and backed up all the programs and 
> settings I'd acquired over the years in my VM.  Then every once in a while, 
> I'd get assed opening my vm to do some menial computer chore and go, "ah the 
> hell with it, I'll just spend half an hour to an hour looking up a good 
> program for this that or the other thing, and never have to worry about it 
> again".  It took a long time to chip my windows reliance down, especially 
> since I have to teach windows and will very soon have a win7 virtual machine 
> here for testing purposes, but it was worth the time and effort.  Now I fly 
> around the mac, and as far as I know, I'm the best mac trainer in the 
> province.  That hasn't hurt me any.
> 
> These days I am drooling over the possibility of IPal being released for the 
> mac.  At that point I think I could very happily shred my virtual machines 
> and have a lot of electronic confetti for the new years eve lan party, except 
> of course that I still need to teach windows.
> 
> Have fun,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
> subscribe.
> 
> On 2010-08-31, at 11:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Erik, I couldn't agree more.
>> 
>> Having the VM is a great tool for migration.  I am already finding I fire it 
>> up and use it less and less.  I'll figure out the mail sooner than later and 
>> go with open office or IWork if it comes down to it.  My goal is to drop 
>> Windows entirely and uaving it available in a VM player is a wonderful way 
>> to slowly migrate off.  Also, having the ability to run other images is very 
>> valuable.
>> 
>> Erik nailed it exactly
>> 
>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andy,  I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder 
>>> than it looks.
>>> 
>>> In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that 
>>> all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up 
>>> to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange.
>>> 
>>> Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to 
>>> set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his 
>>> virtual machine.  Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall 
>>> back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is 
>>> an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing.  
>>> That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good 
>>> job of exchange.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
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>>> box.
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>>> subscribe.
>>> 
>>> On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have
>>>> to use Windows for many tasks.  I guess that shows that the Mac still has a
>>>> way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer
>>>> productivity.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer."
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, that works.
>>>> 
>>>> There's always open office as well.  I have VM Fusion working correctly
>>>> though so that's a good solution.
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.  Office on the mac is not vo accessible.  Office, if you must use 
>>>>> it, will work fine on the windows side.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet?  I know you can use pop3 
>>>>> and imap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have installed the mac version of MS Office.  Is this accessable?  
>>>>> It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new 
>>>>> messages or replying / responding seems problematic.  Any tricks here 
>>>>> or should I just use office under windows?  My reason for using office 
>>>>> is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your 
>>>>> protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Comments?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> 
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