Hey Erik,

I've been a Mac user for about five years and I finally got my employer to 
allow me the ability to have a Mac with a WIndows VM. Now they know they will 
never get me to switch back. I still have to use Windows because of 
compatibility with certain web applications, but my hope is this will change as 
well and yes, I am forced to still use Word, Excel, and Power Point because 
they have not yet gotten iWorks for me. One thing at a time, but hey the big 
step was achieved and now they will allow anyone who wants a Mac to have a VM 
as well. Btw, IPal? That sounds familiar, but cannot recall what that is 
exactly.

On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:52 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi Scott, you are taking my exact path to the mac, so it's the voice of 
> experience talking, smiles.  It took me 6 months to a year before I was 
> switched over.  I virtualised my windows and backed up all the programs and 
> settings I'd acquired over the years in my VM.  Then every once in a while, 
> I'd get assed opening my vm to do some menial computer chore and go, "ah the 
> hell with it, I'll just spend half an hour to an hour looking up a good 
> program for this that or the other thing, and never have to worry about it 
> again".  It took a long time to chip my windows reliance down, especially 
> since I have to teach windows and will very soon have a win7 virtual machine 
> here for testing purposes, but it was worth the time and effort.  Now I fly 
> around the mac, and as far as I know, I'm the best mac trainer in the 
> province.  That hasn't hurt me any.
> 
> These days I am drooling over the possibility of IPal being released for the 
> mac.  At that point I think I could very happily shred my virtual machines 
> and have a lot of electronic confetti for the new years eve lan party, except 
> of course that I still need to teach windows.
> 
> Have fun,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> On 2010-08-31, at 11:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Erik, I couldn't agree more.
>> 
>> Having the VM is a great tool for migration.  I am already finding I fire it 
>> up and use it less and less.  I'll figure out the mail sooner than later and 
>> go with open office or IWork if it comes down to it.  My goal is to drop 
>> Windows entirely and uaving it available in a VM player is a wonderful way 
>> to slowly migrate off.  Also, having the ability to run other images is very 
>> valuable.
>> 
>> Erik nailed it exactly
>> 
>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:36 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andy,  I think all it shows is that the transition is a little harder 
>>> than it looks.
>>> 
>>> In this case, Scott could use exchange in apple mail, but that assumes that 
>>> all of his other settings have been imported properly, that mail is set up 
>>> to his tastes, and that he has the time to learn how to set up exchange.
>>> 
>>> Eventually his vm will bog down, and he'll have a free sunday afternoon to 
>>> set up mail the way he wants it, and there will be one less use for his 
>>> virtual machine.  Until then, it's much more easy and comfortable to fall 
>>> back on what he knows, and since he's using it for work and productivity is 
>>> an issue, it isn't necessarily bad to do the easiest most expedient thing.  
>>> That doesn't mean his mac is less accessible, or that it doesn't do a good 
>>> job of exchange.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
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>>> box.
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>>> On 2010-08-31, at 8:09 AM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From what i read here, it seems as though folks who use the Mac still have
>>>> to use Windows for many tasks.  I guess that shows that the Mac still has a
>>>> way to go before it could be considered a powerful solution for computer
>>>> productivity.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer."
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:47 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, that works.
>>>> 
>>>> There's always open office as well.  I have VM Fusion working correctly
>>>> though so that's a good solution.
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Cameron wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.  Office on the mac is not vo accessible.  Office, if you must use 
>>>>> it, will work fine on the windows side.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can apple mail not deal with exchange yet?  I know you can use pop3 
>>>>> and imap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cameron.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: MS Office accessibility on the mac natively
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have installed the mac version of MS Office.  Is this accessable?  
>>>>> It seems to have buttons available but for example viewing new 
>>>>> messages or replying / responding seems problematic.  Any tricks here 
>>>>> or should I just use office under windows?  My reason for using office 
>>>>> is I need to have access to an outlook exchange server and all your 
>>>>> protocols like IMAP and POP are disabled.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Comments?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> 
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