Yeah I also can't drag and drop with disasterious results. I some how dragged a 
set of files on to a skype window not an archiving app. I was tryin to zip to 
7zip btw.

S
On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:

> well you know like I said vo does have the control option command shift space 
> command for mouse down and mouse up, however it doesn't seem to stick which 
> was my original issue I had but oh well. but now if someone enabled the 
> announcement of items under the mouse thing and then used the mouse, I 
> suppose you could drag that way but even that wasn't too successful for me
> On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote:
> 
>> Yes I do think it is getting funny but the laugh is on us who cannot use an
>> important feature. 
>> 
>> I really believe all that is needed for cut and paste using just the
>> keyboard is already there in the OS since drag and drop for the visual user
>> is really cut and paste only with another name and mouse driven.
>> 
>> I don't know whether to cry or laugh when somebody comes up saying that cut
>> and paste is very dangerous because drag and drop has the same function or
>> end result anyway only with a different way of doing the same  and minus the
>> keyboard support.
>> 
>> Why not us Mac blind users just petition Apple to put a keyboard shortcut
>> for their drag and drop? Maybe then we could do away with Windows all
>> together. Smile.
>> 
>> I raised a similar issue when I was a new Mac user and got my head chewed
>> off for the effort. LOL! I sincerely hope we could be objective and not be
>> counterproductively zealots for one particular thing or another. We could
>> help each other with our different needs. I don't have to be in disagreement
>> just because a particular feature is not important to me. If it is not going
>> to harm me and it could be useful to someone else, then by all means I will
>> support you brother! Grin.
>> 
>> Vic
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst
>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:28 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
>> 
>> this is very funny how this thread has gotten so very
>> philisophical.....laughs
>> On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote:
>> 
>>> Respectfully .   Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive
>>> letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be
>>> the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a
>>> different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few
>>> seconds. I just verifyed this using windows 7 andwindows xp moving 13.7 gb
>>> of mp3 files.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Vic
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
>> another?
>>> 
>>> Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54
>> minutes
>>> or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows
>>> machine.
>>> 
>>> there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>>> 
>>>> When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive
>>> about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually
>>> making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy.
>> Copying
>>> a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a
>> 1GB
>>> folder is almost instant.
>>>> 
>>>> Bryan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
>>> another?
>>>> 
>>>> When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow?
>> If
>>> one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it
>>> take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it?
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Teresa,
>>>>> I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and
>>> paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag
>>> and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is.
>>> When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost
>>> instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes,
>>> like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time
>> sake
>>> alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things
>>> from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. 
>>>>> Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering,
>>> of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer,
>> which
>>> takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would
>> be
>>> implemented in voiceover. 
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live
>>> without a "cut" feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually
>>> knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic
>>> feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS.
>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do
>>> it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make
>>> bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do
>>> it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that
>> used
>>> to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os
>>> level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls
>> and
>>> is not likely to go awyay... 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kaare.
>>>>>>> On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in 
>>>>>>>> leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why
>>> would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM,
>>> Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to
>> move
>>> applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it.  What were Apple
>>> thinking of?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of 
>>>>>>>>>> scissors? (frown)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override 
>>>>>>>>>> this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck
>>> Reichel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>> I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking
>> them
>>> when drag and drop  would be fixed in Snow Leopard.
>>>>>>>>>>> It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there
>>> attention.
>>>>>>>>>>> They said that they are working on it!
>>>>>>>>>>> Talk soon
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse
>>> in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse.  So I
>> tried
>>> to use command + x to cut and no joy.  However, cut works in text edit
>> etc.
>>> I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if
>> they
>>> come back with anything constructive.  Anyone else who has this issue,
>> then
>>> please send an email to Apple too.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it can help you  here you can find the script move file .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this helps for the cut and paste .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you need help .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rossy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.universalaccess.it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did not understand how to do this.  Has anyone had success 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragging a file or folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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