Yes I do think it is getting funny but the laugh is on us who cannot use an important feature.
I really believe all that is needed for cut and paste using just the keyboard is already there in the OS since drag and drop for the visual user is really cut and paste only with another name and mouse driven. I don't know whether to cry or laugh when somebody comes up saying that cut and paste is very dangerous because drag and drop has the same function or end result anyway only with a different way of doing the same and minus the keyboard support. Why not us Mac blind users just petition Apple to put a keyboard shortcut for their drag and drop? Maybe then we could do away with Windows all together. Smile. I raised a similar issue when I was a new Mac user and got my head chewed off for the effort. LOL! I sincerely hope we could be objective and not be counterproductively zealots for one particular thing or another. We could help each other with our different needs. I don't have to be in disagreement just because a particular feature is not important to me. If it is not going to harm me and it could be useful to someone else, then by all means I will support you brother! Grin. Vic -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another? this is very funny how this thread has gotten so very philisophical.....laughs On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote: > Respectfully . Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive > letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be > the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a > different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few > seconds. I just verifyed this using windows 7 andwindows xp moving 13.7 gb > of mp3 files. > > > Vic > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another? > > Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54 minutes > or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows > machine. > > there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah. > > S > On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive > about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually > making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy. Copying > a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a 1GB > folder is almost instant. >> >> Bryan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran >> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to > another? >> >> When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? If > one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it > take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it? >> >> Teresa >> On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote: >> >>> Hi Teresa, >>> I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and > paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag > and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is. > When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost > instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes, > like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time sake > alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things > from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. >>> Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering, > of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, which > takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would be > implemented in voiceover. > >>> >>> John >>> >>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live > without a "cut" feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually > knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic > feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS. > >>>> >>>> As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do > it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make > bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do > it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead. >>>> >>>> Teresa >>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>> >>>>> there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used > to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os > level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and > is not likely to go awyay... >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Kaare. >>>>> On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in >>>>>> leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why > would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, > Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move > applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple > thinking of? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of >>>>>>>> scissors? (frown) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override >>>>>>>> this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck > Reichel wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>>>> I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them > when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. >>>>>>>>> It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there > attention. >>>>>>>>> They said that they are working on it! >>>>>>>>> Talk soon >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse > in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried > to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. > I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they > come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then > please send an email to Apple too. >>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hi , >>>>>>>>>>> if it can help you here you can find the script move file . >>>>>>>>>>> this helps for the cut and paste . >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ >>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you need help . >>>>>>>>>>> rossy >>>>>>>>>>> www.universalaccess.it >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? >>>>>>>>>>>> I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I >>>>>>>>>>>> did not understand how to do this. 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