Hi Dónal,

According to the Mac-access list folks, who converted all their servers from Windows to the Mac at the end of last year, you could run a mac Mini with SL server on it without a monitor up through 10.6.2, but when 10.6.3 came out you needed to connect a monitor. You could ask them for more details. Here's the Mac-access mailing list info web page:
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 28, 2010, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

Brian I'm curious. When running Snow-Leopard server, does a monitor need to be connected? I'm half tempted to buy a mac Mini and run SL server on it, however, as I don't want to plug a monitor in, I won't bother if it needs one when running this version of the OS.

Cheers

Dónal
On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:46, Bryan Smart wrote:

For a dongle, you'd need to have something custom-made, as there isn't anything right now that I know of. Besides that, you'd need the mini displayport to VGA adaptor from Apple. By the time you got through buying those, you could have purchased a small LCD monitor for the same price.

If the point is to be compact, and not to save money, then you can buy a basic MacBook for about the same money.

Bryan

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Aman Singer
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor

Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on?
Thanks.
Aman

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor

Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen.

On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution.

Bryan

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