Brian I'm curious. When running Snow-Leopard server, does a monitor need to be connected? I'm half tempted to buy a mac Mini and run SL server on it, however, as I don't want to plug a monitor in, I won't bother if it needs one when running this version of the OS.
Cheers Dónal On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:46, Bryan Smart wrote: > For a dongle, you'd need to have something custom-made, as there isn't > anything right now that I know of. Besides that, you'd need the mini > displayport to VGA adaptor from Apple. By the time you got through buying > those, you could have purchased a small LCD monitor for the same price. > > If the point is to be compact, and not to save money, then you can buy a > basic MacBook for about the same money. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:08 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor > > Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you > know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they > made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor > will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be > a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with > power, or can one simply not power it on? > Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be > hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to > the checks you mention are going on? > Thanks. > Aman > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor > > Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at > once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the > available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is > connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and > so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks > you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen > with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they > can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, > but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 > screen. > > On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible > for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac > doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least > as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in > from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my > Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could > poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use > a specific screen resolution. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor > > Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should > someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running > up extra electricity costs. > > Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! > > I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. > On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't >> use > a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really > know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine > without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. >> Hth, >> Courtney >> On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> I"m not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for >>> the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are >>> required > for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but > I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, all. >>>> I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the >>>> new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before >>>> I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be >>>> possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings >>>> required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just >>>> at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> Aman >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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