1. I agree, scripts are great, and can help speed up many tasks. However, as it 
is right now, they aren't easy to share. That's a large reason why there aren't 
more people using them. When I made a move file script for VO, which I could 
explain how to operate in a single paragraph, I had to spend several more 
paragraphs trying to explain where the file should be placed, how to move it 
there, how to enable the keyboard commander, and how to assign the script to a 
shortcut key. Something is messed up with this process. Not exactly sure what 
the solution should be, but this needs work. Perhaps some sort of import VO 
script assistant?

2. busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, makes me angry, angry, angry, 
angry, angry! If an app is busy, and VO needs to tell me that, I appreciate it. 
However, I don't need to be reminded at such a rapid rate. How about spacing 
these messages further apart. How about playing a soft looping audio cue while 
an app is busy, so that we know, when we hear that sound, the app is still too 
involved to respond to user input.

3. Hot spots are great, but it would be good if we could have hot spots that 
were app-specific. For example, I could set a hot spot to the first item in a 
toolbar in Mail, or to the song name in the LCD area of iTunes. When I later 
returned to those programs, my hot spots would still be set.

4. VO needs to do a better job at shutting up speech when the user starts 
typing. VO commands interrupt speech just fine, but, frequently, I'll press an 
arrow key in a Finder window, and VO will keep on talking.

5. Why is it that, if VO sounds are enabled, the speech often waits until a 
sound has finished playing before speaking? This doesn't happen on the iPhone. 
The result is that VO users must decide between the benefits of the audio cues, 
or the increased responsiveness gained by turning them off. A compromise 
shouldn't be necessary. The cue and the speech can play at the same time, like 
what happens on the iPhone.

This isn't VoiceOver specifically, but many of us are still waiting for some 
accessible way to select material for editing in GarageBand, as well as 
resolutions for the accessibility problems in Logic.

Bryan

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver 4.0

Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we should 
start looking forward to is the next Mac OS.  10.7 (lion maybe?). 

so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented into 
VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening.

i will get the ball rolling ...

1.      Intelligent number reading.  if voiceover encounters numbers then it 
can only be set to read them as words or numbers.  It would be neat if 
VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or 
words.  For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover knew 
in this instance to read two six as twenty six years.  Another example would be 
a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before numbers 
beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not some huge 
number containing millions and thousands.  The same could be said for time and 
measurements etc.

2.      In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank 
on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell.  yes I 
know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around this, 
but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant unless the user 
wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it would also be 
useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening it.

3.      An additional voice.  Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and slow, 
the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year dot and 
probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why they are 
still there.  I would like to see an additional voice added to complement Alex, 
maybe a female voice.  This would be useful for reading events as some of us 
have to purchase an additional voice for this task.

4.      Portable document image , when using adium or the weather widget I get 
infuriated when I hear the graphic image read out as portable document image.  
Why can't voiceover simply say oh its a picture of the sun or a cloud or its a 
smiley or sad face etc.

5.      The ability to change the speech rate etc within iChat for when you 
have events set up so new messages or buddies online are read out., as 
currently the default is very slow and there is no way to speed them up.

6.      The ability to remember hotspots and web hot spots (by website basis) 
after turning the mac off would be very useful.  Landmarks has been added to 
the iPhone, perhaps this could be added to the Mac too?

7.      JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible 
applications accessible.  This is not an ideal long term solution but it is a 
temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would make 
the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get around to 
following Apple's accessibility guidelines.

8.      A keybaord shortcut to read out battery status when using a laptop.  Or 
even better still, when pressing the battery status button on the side of the 
macbook, enable voiceover to detect  that button press and act on it.

9.      When setting password protection on the Mac, VoiceOver is not set as 
default to alert the user that they need to enter their password.  even though 
VoiceOver might be set as the default to come on once you have successfully 
logged onto the mac, you have to manually set in the accounts preferences to 
enable voiceover to run on the login screen.  

Ok over you to guys now...

Chris 



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