Hi,

No offense, but some of this just sounds like nitpicking. :)

Firstly, with phone numbers, for example. There are a lot of different formats 
for phone numbers, depending on what your location is. I don't really think 
it's really necessary for the VoiceOver people to implement this, as you can 
just read it manually. And, even so, a lot of people tend to pre-format phone 
numbers.

How do you expect VoiceOver to be able to tell you what the image is? This one 
confuses me.

7.      JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible 
applications accessible.  This is not an ideal long term solution but it is a 
temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would make 
the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get around to 
following Apple's accessibility guidelines.

What? I see scripts as being more potentially damaging than anything, actually, 
and we already have various solutions that cover this as opposed to Microsoft 
Office on the Mac. I didn't understand what you wanted here at first, but I'm 
assuming you want Apple to implement a language that makes the interface 
accessible?

As for the key to read battery status, make an AppleScript. :) Or do it the 
old-fashioned way with Control-F8, then move left twice.

A language rotor would be nice, but we already have the voices attribute. Just 
select from there, seems simple enough. It does what you already need. Now, an 
option to filter voices from the attribute would definitely be welcome. Of 
course, as you switch voices the voice you previously used is put below the one 
you are using, so I guess they are still easy to choose quickly. That way, you 
can order them by preferred voices.

There are some things I would love to see, but those are mostly Mac OS X 
specific, actually, and not really anything to do with VoiceOver at all.

Have a wonderful morning, everyone.

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On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> Oh, and have speak text under mouse available in Mail also.
> 
> On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we 
>> should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS.  10.7 (lion maybe?). 
>> 
>> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented 
>> into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening.
>> 
>> i will get the ball rolling ...
>> 
>> 1.   Intelligent number reading.  if voiceover encounters numbers then it 
>> can only be set to read them as words or numbers.  It would be neat if 
>> VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or 
>> words.  For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover 
>> knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years.  Another example 
>> would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before 
>> numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not 
>> some huge number containing millions and thousands.  The same could be said 
>> for time and measurements etc.
>> 
>> 2.   In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank 
>> on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell.  yes 
>> I know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around 
>> this, but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant unless the 
>> user wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it would also 
>> be useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening it.
>> 
>> 3.   An additional voice.  Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and slow, 
>> the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year dot 
>> and probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why they 
>> are still there.  I would like to see an additional voice added to 
>> complement Alex, maybe a female voice.  This would be useful for reading 
>> events as some of us have to purchase an additional voice for this task.
>> 
>> 4.   Portable document image , when using adium or the weather widget I get 
>> infuriated when I hear the graphic image read out as portable document 
>> image.  Why can't voiceover simply say oh its a picture of the sun or a 
>> cloud or its a smiley or sad face etc.
>> 
>> 5.   The ability to change the speech rate etc within iChat for when you 
>> have events set up so new messages or buddies online are read out., as 
>> currently the default is very slow and there is no way to speed them up.
>> 
>> 6.   The ability to remember hotspots and web hot spots (by website basis) 
>> after turning the mac off would be very useful.  Landmarks has been added to 
>> the iPhone, perhaps this could be added to the Mac too?
>> 
>> 7.   JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible 
>> applications accessible.  This is not an ideal long term solution but it is 
>> a temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would 
>> make the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get 
>> around to following Apple's accessibility guidelines.
>> 
>> 8.   A keybaord shortcut to read out battery status when using a laptop.  Or 
>> even better still, when pressing the battery status button on the side of 
>> the macbook, enable voiceover to detect  that button press and act on it.
>> 
>> 9.   When setting password protection on the Mac, VoiceOver is not set as 
>> default to alert the user that they need to enter their password.  even 
>> though VoiceOver might be set as the default to come on once you have 
>> successfully logged onto the mac, you have to manually set in the accounts 
>> preferences to enable voiceover to run on the login screen.  
>> 
>> Ok over you to guys now...
>> 
>> Chris 
>> 
>> 
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