What on earth are you going on about Mike? The iPhone in the uk at least is no way near the cheapist accessible solution.
On 21/06/2010, Maxwell Ivey Jr. <maxwelli...@aol.com> wrote: > Hello; good point. I only asked because someone posted earlier that > there is now a bluetooth keyboard you can use with the mac. I do all > my coding by hand in html, and i use cute ftp for the mac. so, would > have to find out about ftp clients on the iphone. that was a very > good point. thanks, Max > On Jun 20, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hmm I don't know. you might be able to if you code the pages and >> some how upload them via ftp but writing html in an iphone? probably >> no unless you get a blue tooth keyboard. Hmm I'll chew on this one. >> >> S >> On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: >> >>> I think you are right. just look at what happened with the >>> unlimited data plans on air cards. They sold them and made them >>> cheap to purchase and then had to discontinue the unlimited and cap >>> them at 5 gb. but you know wat makes me mad? I'm a sprint >>> customer. I have unlimited data on my phone that i can't use >>> because sprint doesn't offer a phone with speach unless i want to >>> buy one and then pay to put mobile me or something like that on >>> it. I'm not going to put out 200 for a smart phone and then 500 >>> for the software. the new blackberries with orator are only >>> available for verizon, and as we all know the iphone is only >>> available with a t & t. good luck to the iphone users. one >>> question that may make me at least think about it, do you think i >>> could manage my website from an iphone if i import the folder to >>> one? something to think about. thanks again, max >>> On Jun 20, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I agree actually with Bryan here. I was in a pool room and >>>> listening to one of my favorite radio networks. it buffered at 16k >>>> stereo dial up which sucked. but then again I think of it like >>>> this. some people will still pay 45 a month to use 3 gigs of data >>>> or more. so what at&t has done I think is to entice some of us to >>>> use more bandwidth and if they can pay for it they will. I >>>> prophesy that at&t and verison will get themselves in to a pickle >>>> as the networks degrade even further. >>>> Sorry for presenting both sides of the coin here but that's what >>>> it is. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>> >>>>> if you want to pay more go for it and while youare at it help us >>>>> pay for what used to be overpiced and ow is rediculous!yeah rich >>>>> man most of us can NOT afford it especialy considering the i >>>>> phone is the ONLY reasonable solution that is accessible. >>>>> anything else costs twice the price for half the functionality >>>>> On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You know, I was angry about this. The more I think about it, >>>>>> though, the more I like it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Recently, when I travel to any large urban center in the US, >>>>>> network performance on my phone becomes degraded. Didn't used to >>>>>> be that way. Has become much worse in the last year or so. I >>>>>> know that is because, in large part, to all of the bazillion >>>>>> people on their iPhones. Previously, those people either didn't >>>>>> care, or didn't know enough, to affectively do anything on a >>>>>> smartphone that would consume a lot of bandwidth. Now, anyone >>>>>> can go get a cheap iPhone, and start lapping up all the >>>>>> bandwidth for $30 per month. You don't need many of those people >>>>>> in your area before most of the network capacity is gone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, data will cost a bit more now. I'd like to pay less, but I >>>>>> can afford to pay more. However, paying more has the added >>>>>> benefit that most people won't be able to pay more, or at least >>>>>> will carefully consider what they're doing before they leave >>>>>> Pandora running on their iPhone all day at their desk, sucking >>>>>> up all of the capacity in the cell, etc. They'll be worried >>>>>> about bills now, which means they'll stay off the network, which >>>>>> means more bandwidth for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've noticed that just about any business that offers all you >>>>>> can use or all you can eat service starts to quickly drop off in >>>>>> quality. Think of those web hosting companies that promise >>>>>> unlimited bandwidth. Sure, the bandwidth for your site is >>>>>> unlimited, just like the bandwidth for the other thousand sites >>>>>> that they host are unlimited. The result is that you can >>>>>> download all you want, at a snail's pace. Who goes to a buffet >>>>>> restaurant for fine dining? It's better to pay a company a fee >>>>>> that actually manages to cover the costs for the service that >>>>>> they provide. If not, well, you descend in to the wonderfully >>>>>> high quality of unlimited web hosting and buffet dining. I think >>>>>> that I get more upset with AT&T's network being clogged than I >>>>>> am about the price. If I can pay more to have it work well, then >>>>>> sign me up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bryan >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Michael Thurman >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:25 PM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Install iOS 4 today! >>>>>> >>>>>> how do you figure that if you don't actually USE your phone >>>>>> maybe, but i want an I phone for streaming and data NOT for >>>>>> yapping onthe phone i also want it for the echlink client and >>>>>> skype. i almost never talk on the telephone. and i can suck down >>>>>> 2 gb in a day I'd imagine. a couple hours of streaming audio a >>>>>> week and I'd bus tmy limit. at and t just needs to get off thier >>>>>> can and fix their outdated infastructure! it's not like I'm >>>>>> tryinh o ownload movies but 2 gb can't be worth anything and god >>>>>> forbid i ever did want to listen to something from netflix or >>>>>> huly great job the i pad will have an ap for netflix just in >>>>>> time for at and t to kill of any chance of acutlaly using it >>>>>> except at home. if I have to be home to stream audio with my I >>>>>> phone that I was going to buy I'd jus tuse my laptop On Jun 17, >>>>>> 2010, at 6:48 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It sounds like your just mad for the sake of being mad. ATT is >>>>>>> not screwing people over data prices per say. It is just the >>>>>>> feeling of having limits placed on you. The timing was >>>>>>> definitely grimy but, most people will end up saving money in >>>>>>> the long run. >>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what is unethical is the fact that apple doesn't kick at and t >>>>>>>> in the ball sof r screwing us ont he data prices!!!!!!! i >>>>>>>> doubt i wil be getting a new I phone becuase of the screw job >>>>>>>> at and t is doing to us and verizon will surely screw us as >>>>>>>> well beofre they get the I phone it was expensive enugh beofre >>>>>>>> at and t decided to piss on all of us who want to get an I phone >>>>>>>> as for trying a beta it's a beta get real On Jun 12, 2010, at >>>>>>>> 10:17 >>>>>>>> AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> right on scott the huge wait time is absolutely staggering, >>>>>>>>> and to be blunt jumping ahead of the line to install >>>>>>>>> unsanctioned product just because we can is a bit of a kick >>>>>>>>> in the nuts to a company that has made itself usable out of >>>>>>>>> the box for us. It's not only free, but jumping ahead is not >>>>>>>>> only a touch unethical considering, but a touch rude to boot. >>>>>>>>> On 2010-06-12, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Considering the fact that unless you are a developer and >>>>>>>>>> obtained the beta via legitimate means, I cannot believe you >>>>>>>>>> have the nerve to ask how to install/upgrade software you >>>>>>>>>> are not entitled to use. I hope no one provides you with >>>>>>>>>> any help on this list. Perhaps waiting for the official >>>>>>>>>> release makes even more sense and wow, you would have to >>>>>>>>>> wait one entire week. >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have downloaded the iphone os 4, and the itunes beta. >>>>>>>>>>> How can i do that, i have tryed to check for updates, but i >>>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>>> find the boks, there i can shose the file with the update i >>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>> downloaded. >>>>>>>>>>> Are there anyone, there have tryed to upgrade to i os 4. >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>> Jorgen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2010/6/11, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>>> Man you guys really cant' wait another week or so? How do >>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> know what your downloading has not been hacked and has >>>>>>>>>>>> malicious >>>>>>>>>>>> code installed. Of course at the very least, do you not >>>>>>>>>>>> respect >>>>>>>>>>>> the fact that these downloads are illegal or certainly are >>>>>>>>>>>> not in >>>>>>>>>>>> line with Apples policy. I can't wait either, but these >>>>>>>>>>>> are not >>>>>>>>>>>> legitimate sources and you do not know what your getting. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:00 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm running IOS 4 from www.myiphoneactivation.com. check >>>>>>>>>>>>> it out >>>>>>>>>>>>> all of the betas are there >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be preordering the iPhone 4G on Tuesday, I'm very >>>>>>>>>>>>> excited for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cody >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Justin Thornton wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi when I go to down the actual os 4 file the torrent >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is I'm not registered witht he apps store >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think I can install os4. Can I? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Thanks for that great info, and we don't brake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any laws >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by doing that. We don't crack any software. You only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free apps and updates. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Søren Jensen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail & MSN: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Den Jun 9, 2010 kl. 7:07 PM skrev David Hole: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folkes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For you interested in installing iOS 4 today, you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the guide how to do it is in Norwegian, i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate it with http://translate.google.com/ Here's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide: http://www.itavisen.no/844413/install >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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