Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those people who run Fusion on their Macs.
Begin forwarded message: > From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com> > Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00 > To: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawal_gucuko...@sent.com> > Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom? > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin r. Howard" <co...@pobox.com> > To: <b...@freelists.org>; <access...@freelists.org>; > <av...@googlegroups.com>; <ntexpr...@googlegroups.com>; > <jaws...@freelists.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM > Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom? > > >> Greetings, >> >> I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind Audio List >> which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or AccessUK groups. >> >> Ought we to give much credence to this? >> >> I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound. >> >> From: "Otto Zamora" <donttreado...@bellsouth.net> >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400 >> >> Morning, >> >> In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference Freedom >> Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw. >> Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on a flag by an >> analyst. >> Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising given the >> economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off some of their >> division, mainly their JFW area. >> I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that there >> is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700. >> Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get the >> package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully accessible web >> sites, word processing, and E mail. >> all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as individual >> program. >> ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool indeed >> for the kind of money they are asking for. >> Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling computers >> already with speech on board right out of the box and off the shelf. >> Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that might very >> well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program. >> Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of JFW, will >> only work for a short while until the programs controlling the OS, begins to >> outgrow the application. >> In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to me, was >> the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by Mr.. Mike Calvo, >> is very short. >> The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want without >> real loss. From: "Alison Trelfa" <codamu...@uwclub.net> >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:36:47 +0100 >> >> Hello, Otto, >> >> I wonder whether many jaws users would move to another speech program as yet >> as many of the packages that are not standard probably wouldn't be supported >> by the out of the box speech. I run Sonar and Sibelius 5.25, both of which >> are using scripts that have been written by folk who specialise not only in >> Jaws, but only in the two programs. I suppose those people who only need >> computers for basic commands may well get away with speech such as you >> describe, but I don't think that Jaws would just be dismissed out of hand >> because Freedom is going. I think Jaws has changed hands once before if I'm >> not mistaken? Correct me if I'm wrong there. >> >> I would be very sorry to see Jaws go under, but I'm not worried yet. There >> is a huge following for Jaws and I believe that someone would take it over. >> >> From: "Otto Zamora" <donttreado...@bellsouth.net> >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:49:36 -0400 >> >> hi, >> >> You are correct, I am just stating that from what we were told, they are >> having a hard time finding someone who will take on the project,especially >> since as you point out, most people are not using anything that is high >> end, and from what we also have heard, people are tired of having to pay >> $1500 and change, when there now is a program which will do speech and more >> for only $700. >> Given the economy, for many people, the sedition may be financial. >> >> >> From: Geoff Long <ge...@tisab.demon.co.uk> >> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:20:04 +0100 >> >> Hi Alison, I wonder how many JAWS users have to >> pay for their own equipment. I use window-eyes, >> which is considerably less expensive, and as I >> had to pay for my training and kit from my own >> pocket, it makes a big difference. >> >> From: "Dr Norman Waddington" <normanwaddington...@btinternet.com> >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:36:22 +0100 >> >> Hi Geoff, >> >> I need no introduction to you on this list. >> >> I am a Jaws user and have paid all the way through out of my own pocket from >> version 3.5 methinks if I remember correctly. >> >> >> From: Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> >> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:37:37 +0200 >> >> Hello! >> Also we have nvda as a very good and free alternative. >> And Hal or supernova which costs less money than jaws. >> From: "Mike Stewart" <stewar...@verizon.net> >> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:58:45 -0600 >> >> The entry price is steep, but upgrades only run about $100-$140 or so... >> >> From: "Alison Trelfa" <codamu...@uwclub.net> >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 21:31:33 +0100 >> >> Hi, Geoff, >> >> It is expensive to get jaws I agree with that. The problem I have is that >> there are no other programs that support the music side as far as I know. If >> all programs worked as well as microsoft office or outlook express then I >> think Jaws would really be struggling. Most of the other programs that I >> know of don't support many programs apart from the basics. >> >> >> >> From Colin Howard, for whom a small place near Southampton in >> Southern England, has the honour of providing a home. >> To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, >> please visit our website: >> http://www.bcab.org.uk/ >> >> To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our >> website: >> http://www.bcab.org.uk/mailing-list.html >> >> To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email >> bcab-moderat...@freelists.org > ____ Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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