Hi Søren,

I thought I'd weigh in on this topic. As someone who has had trouble with her 
HumanWare Braille display, I can safely say that it is possible to use a 
braille display with VoiceOver. I have had some troubles hooking up my 
BrailleNote because the version of Keysoft I have is very old. But that's not 
HumanWare's fault. I don't know which displays work with VoiceOver unless I 
look at the list of supported displays. My BrailleNote works via a Bluetooth 
connection. Has anyone had any experience with this?

Allison

On May 31, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Here are my thoughts:
> I don't think it's possible to use Braille displays or Braille devices with 
> Voiceover simply because VOiceover only supports bluetooth and Braille 
> displays through a USB connection. Jaws does only support Braille through 
> serial connections which is being converted to USB using the serial to USB 
> adapter or using a driver in either Jaws or in Windows. Therefore, a USB 
> Braille display won't work with Jaws if there aren't a USB to serial 
> converter driver installed which communicate with Jaws. Likewise, a serial 
> Braille display won't work on a Mac until a serial to USB driver has been 
> made specially to Voiceover and the Braile settings. It's not enough with a 
> USB to serial converter without any driver.
> Please correct me if I'm wrong. It's only my thoughts.
> Best regards
> Søren Jensen
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> On May 31, 2010, at 4:48 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Dean,  I was able to set my m20 up as a braille display using a usb to 
>> serial no problem under window-eyes, and I'm assuming under jaws it would 
>> work the same way.  As long as the data parameters are set up properly the 
>> usb port should function just like any other serial port.  I was for sure 
>> able to use windisk this way to move files two and from my braille lite m20.
>> 
>> Jaws doesn't support any hardware anymore.  Support comes from the 
>> manufactures of the hardware.  So I'm not surprised they played the no 
>> support game, but that should not necessarily mean it doesn't work.
>> 
>> Regarding the apple, my guess is no, this won't work.  Oddly enough apple 
>> officially supports all the devices on it's supported hardware list.  I'm 
>> not sure though if mac OS 10 even supports serial ports in the 10.5 and 10.6 
>> incarnations.  Plus, there's no way in voiceover to force detection of 
>> legacy hardware as far as I know.
>> 
>> I left my usb to serial addapter at a clients house so I can't try it 
>> myself, but I primarily wanted to chime in on jaws with usb to serial, since 
>> it seems to me that this should work even though it's not "supported".
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> Toll-free: 888-255-5194
>> 
>> On 2010-05-31, at 10:17 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:
>> 
>>> I suspect this may not have been tested, but should it work to use a
>>> Braille Lite Millennium with a USB to serial converter as a braille
>>> display using VoiceOver?  this is an old Freedom Scientific device
>>> which I own and like for other reasons but which, oddly enough, one
>>> can't use as a display with JAWS since they don't support use of USB
>>> to serial converters.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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