Hi Chanelle,

I experience the App Switcher issue, as well.  Again, not all the time, but 
enough that it’s something of an annoyance.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 12, 2025, at 2:21 PM, Chanelle Allen <chanellem.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I get stuck in the App Library when connecting or disconnecting my Braille 
> display unless I make sure that focus is inside an app. I am using iOS 18.2 
> on an iPhone 13 Pro. I cannot use my braille display to get out of the App 
> Library. I either have to do the home gesture or swipe three fingers, then 
> touch somewhere in the middle of the screen for focus to be placed on my home 
> screen. I have tried disabling the settings relating to library. Also, when 
> using the three finger swipe gesture to close an app in the app switcher, 
> sometimes the wrong app is closed. I rely entirely on VoiceOver and never let 
> anyone else touch my phone.
> Regards,
> Chanelle
> 
> On Jan 12, 2025, at 13:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I could of course be wrong, but I don’t think this is a user error.  I never 
> had this issue until IOS 18 or 18.1, not sure exactly which. And I’ve noticed 
> that in general, since IOS 18 Voiceover focus is a little more slippy than it 
> used to be.  So I think it’s some kind of bug.  As you know, it is often the 
> case that not everyone experiences a given bug.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2025, at 12:07 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>   I do not experience such issues, have never been "stuck" in the app 
>> library. Suggest you put some time in the Voiceover practice area that Apple 
>> so kindly provided for us.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Ambivalent?  Well yes and no.
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/12/2025 8:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi Pete,
>>> 
>>> Well, I guess I’m glad I’m not the only one. :). I agree, it’s super 
>>> annoying!  I think it has something to do with scrolling or swiping 
>>> gestures not stopping when they should.  Because I’ve noticed a related 
>>> problem.  Sometimes, when I swipe up to adjust music volume, it keeps going 
>>> until the volume is at 100%.  This is easier to deal with, you just turn 
>>> the volume back down using the side buttons, but it’s still kind of 
>>> annoying.  The one thing that seems to be different about the App Library 
>>> thing, is that it seems to happen most often when I’m unlocking my phone.  
>>> And yeah, it’s impossible to exit the App Library when that happens.  
>>> Sometimes, I’ve been able to get out of the App Library by oping the app 
>>> switcher, then going into an app from there, and then exiting to my Home 
>>> Screen, but that doesn’t work all of the time.  Maybe I will go ahead and 
>>> send it to Accessibility.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 12, 2025, at 9:32 AM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> This happens to me too, and it's driving me nuts! Only way I've reliably 
>>>> found to get out of it is to restart the phone. You can ask Siri: "hey 
>>>> siri, restart my device". She'll ask if you really want to do it, you say 
>>>> yes, and the phone is back up in a few seconds after you enter your pass 
>>>> code.
>>>> 
>>>> Pete De Vasto
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:18 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Why does my phone keep taking me to the App Library?
>>>> 
>>>>   3 finger swipe right.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> Ambivalent?  Well yes and no.
>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/11/2025 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A weird thing has been happening for a while now.  When I open my phone, 
>>>>> it takes me into my App library.  I have no reason to be there, and don’t 
>>>>> want to be.  This seems to be an IOS 18 thing.  Anyone else experiencing 
>>>>> this? Or does anyone know how to stop it or at least close the App 
>>>>> Library? Once I’m in there, I can’t seem to get out and back to my 
>>>>> regular Home Screen.
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
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