Wanting to get a virtual machine set up so I can install Windows 11 om my MBP
with M3 Max chip.
Can VMWare be installed without sighted asistance, using only Voiceover?
And can it be operated with Voiceover after installation and installing Windows?
And when do I need to get JAWS installed on the VM machine to assist?
Dave Carlson
Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer
On Nov 12, 2024, at 4:37 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Exactly. I'm running Debian in VMware on my M2 Macbook Pro.
Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> Yes of corse.
> I didnt know that you could run mare on the silicon Macs.
> If you can then I suppose you could run Debian virtually.
> /A
>
>> 8 nov. 2024 kl. 16:26 skrev 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> My understanding is that a dual boot configuration with Asahi Linux and
>> MacOS is an option, but of course you would need to reboot to switch
>> operating systems, and I don't know how accessible the procedure is for
>> selecting the system to load during boot.
>> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 10:18
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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>> Subject: Re: Using virtualization software on my 2019 Mac Pro
>>
>> No, I'm running VMware on a M2 Macbook Pro.
>>
>> You don't want Asahi Linux unless you no longer want MacOS. Asahi is for
>> turning your Mac into a Linux box, it's not for use in a vm.
>>
>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>>> Hi!
>>> But you use the Intel Mac I guess?
>>> I don???t want to use the parallels as its not very very accessible to set
>>> up.
>>> I wonder if qemu is doable on an m1 Mac?
>>> Otherwise I have to. Play around with Ashanti linux.
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
>>>
>>>> 31 okt. 2024 kl. 10:17 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> Two answers about how accessible ...
>>>>
>>>> 1.) I had several failed attempts at installing a client Linux.
>>>> Debian did work. Once I got into the Debian installer, I came close to
>>>> getting a functioning installation, but not quite. Eventually I broke
>>>> down and granted remote access to a sighted colleague for help with the
>>>> installation. I do now have a function Debian that I can update in the
>>>> usual way Linux is updated.
>>>>
>>>> 2.) Operational everything is fine once I trick my Mac into giving
>>>> focus to the client OS. Currently, this seems to require temporarily
>>>> turning off Voice Over. The Mac seems to want to stay focussed on VMware
>>>> chrome even when the VM is full screen. However, once I get focus set in
>>>> the guest/client OS, it just works and continues even after I alt-TAB to
>>>> other apps.
>>>>
>>>> hth
>>>>
>>>> Janina
>>>>
>>>> Frank Ventura writes:
>>>>> Thanks, how accessible do you find VMWare Fusion? Also where can I buy
>>>>> it? Is it in the Mac App Store? Thanks
>>>>> Frank Ventura
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:02???AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am running VMware on my M2 Macbook. I have Debian with the Speakup
>>>>>> screen reader in a virtual machine. It's been very stable. I have not
>>>>>> attempted to run Orca with a graphical Linux environment of any kind.
>>>>>> The Linux CLI is exactly why I wanted this vm on my Mac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alt tabbing into the virtual machine is a bit tricky, but manageable. I
>>>>>> doubt you'll find any tutorials, though. I could be wrong, of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would not recommend a virtual machine as the vector for learning
>>>>>> another operating system. Instead, I'd suggest using an older machine
>>>>>> that you might still have, or could acquire very affordably. Also, the
>>>>>> knowledge necessary to successfully install Linux is different from what
>>>>>> you knowledge you need to use it with a screen reader. I suspect self
>>>>>> installation trips up many people who share your goal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank Ventura writes:
>>>>>>> Hi all, I would like to experiment with running a few virtual machines
>>>>>>> on my Mac to familiarize myself with other operating systems such as
>>>>>>> Linux and Chrome OS Flex. The Mac I am going to be using for this is
>>>>>>> the 2019 edition of the Mac Pro desktop. Does anyone know what
>>>>>>> virtualization software for the Mac is currently accessible? Also are
>>>>>>> there any tutorials or videos on how to do this?Also is better to
>>>>>>> create a dual boot system? If so are there tutorials for that as well?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Frank Ventura
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