same thing for me too. I wanted a nano when I heard the accessibility was available there. In order to run a nano however, I would need to update my Screen reader. We all know the price range I was looking at and to boot I needed a new laptop. So when I heard a podcast about the nano and discovered the demo was being done with a mac and by a blind mac user at that, my interest grew. I knew of voice over, and indeed, had trialed it back in 2005 but the people I was trialling with were not familiar with the OS themselves and were doing the whole thing from a manual. I was frustrated and was glad to get back to the windows side. But when I entered the Apple store, after much research about voice over, I put my hands on the mac and I knew this was extremely possible. Yes, I wasn't an early adopter but I've been a faithful mac user since October 2008 and I don't touch my ancient windows machine ever now. It's here, but simply because no one I know wants it. lol I think the world of the web is helping more and more, yes, adult users become familiar with the options and that is a great thing. after all, whatever works for you as an individual is what is best.
On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:55, Kaare Dehard wrote: > In my case 8t was like Marie said, I heard about it in a podcast, and was > just starting to shop for new equip. Right time righyt place, and access to > fly one for an hour to see were the tipping points. > > On 2010-04-15, at 6:24 AM, marie Howarth wrote: > >> I think it all depends on the user and their attitude too. An individual may >> hear about macs on a podcast or know of another user with a mac who is also >> VI, and take themselves off to the Apple store. In manchester, I know due to >> myself and a few other VI customers, most of the staff in the store are >> highly familiar with voice over. As for training, I think its coming from >> Apple in the near future. >> >> On 15 Apr 2010, at 10:54, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> I'd very much doubt it Rob. I don't know what it's like in other >>> countries, but here in Ireland most of the trainers are actually sighted. >>> Macs haven't penetrated the mainstream userbase to the same extent as >>> windows-based Pcs. Consequently the level of knowledge among the trainers >>> on the actual OS itself (not including VO) is virtually non existent. The >>> fact that the trainers would have to go and learn an entirely new platform, >>> and then educate themselves in a new style of assistive technology makes it >>> pretty certain that the majority of blind users will be stuck with Jaws and >>> other badly implemented screenreaders for the foreseeable future. >>> >>> It's sad, but in my opinion true that this is the case. >>> >>> Dónal >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Lambert >>> Sent: 15 April 2010 10:47 >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: new member >>> >>> Who here thinks we'll see the Mac replacing PCs in AT training offices? >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Joe Plummer <joeplum...@tds.net> wrote: >>> For other A T you can run boot camp or virtual windows to use them. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sign, >>> Joe Plummer ( JP ) >>> joeplum...@tds.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:46 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: new member >>> >>> Hello Denise, >>> >>> I hope the word processor you are thinking of getting is iWork09, since MS >>> Office for Mac is not accessible. >>> >>> As for Word documents of almost any level, TextEdit or Pages will read these >>> just fine. >>> >>> I can't answer any of your other questions having never been a Windows user. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, denise avant wrote: >>> >>> > hello, >>> > after having my iphone for six months now, i have really enjoyed my >>> experience with apple. To that end, i am looking into purchasing a mac book >>> pro. In fact, i called for some specs today and have set one with 4 gig of >>> ram, and a 320 hard drive, 13 in screen. again this is just a possiblity. >>> > i will also have the word processor included. i will also have the >>> one-to-one training as there is a nearby apple store in chicago. >>> > i am curious as to what those of you who own macs have done about your >>> other windows based adatpive equipment, duxbury, openbook or k1000 and hw >>> stream companion? how easy is it to move ms word 2003 2007 docs over to >>> apple macs, still keep the formatting or move them back again? >>> > I thought of just keeping my netbook or sony machine for these purposes. >>> there was also the idea given to me that i could have windows on one side >>> and the mac on the other side. any thoughts on these questions would be >>> apprciated. >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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