Hi,

The apple wireless bluetooth keyboard does not have a touch pad.
On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Joel Zimba wrote:

> I believe the apple wireless keyboard has a touch pad.  As the touchpad 
> commander works much like the iPhone screen, I don't think it would be a leap 
> to have it work similarly when connected to the iPad.  
> 
> If this isn't how it works initially, I am sure it will in short order. 
> 
> Having the link rotor dialogue open as it does on the mac might also be 
> simple, as it's essencially the same thing with the keyboard interface vs a 
> touch interface.
> 
> 
> A trend toward the iPhone os (iPad os being the same thing)  coming to 
> resemble the VO interface on the Mac is probably unavoidable as they take on 
> more and more computer functions.  
> 
> We shall see in the coming weeks no doubt.
> 
> J
> On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with the 
>> rotor to links.  My main point was that I thought it was likely that some 
>> extension of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod Touch might make it 
>> into the keyboard shortcut set of commands for the iPad, given the support 
>> of both the dockable keyboard and the BT keyboard.
>> <begin quote>
>> I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on
>> a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle
>> some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch
>> screen.  That would really be clunky!
>> <end quote>
>> On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the continuity of 
>> gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with the virtual 
>> keyboard is fairly well integrated.  On the current generation Macs, we work 
>> largely with keyboard shortcuts and the newest machines incorporate some of 
>> the gestures used on the iPhone and iPod Touch.  My speculation was that 
>> Apple might introduce VO extensions for the iPad that function like the 
>> keyboard shortcuts to make it easier to work from the keyboard alone for 
>> simple functions, rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this down 
>> to pick up your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put the 
>> iPad down again to return to your keyboard.
>> 
>> I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you 
>> navigate by links headings, etc.  Some of the limitations in the range of 
>> navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch resemble the 
>> restrictions in VO performance in its first release under Tiger.  Since 
>> Chris was wondering about support for the VO keyboard shortcuts that we use 
>> under the full Mac system, and since I don't believe he uses either an 
>> iPhone or iPod Touch, I was trying to address his questions about the 
>> likelihood for a hybrid version of the VO on an iPad that uses some of the 
>> keyboard shortcuts on the regular Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and iPod 
>> Touch gestures have made their way into the expanded usage of Mac computers 
>> under recent OS and model updates.
>> 
>> I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know, I'll 
>> end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Plummer wrote:
>> 
>>> That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on. You in
>>> like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a nob and
>>> do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links and so
>>> on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is not what
>>> you are talking about then accept my apology.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sign,
>>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>>> joeplum...@tds.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:19 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> My guess is that you may be able to use a restricted set of the VO
>>> keyboard commands with the iPad.  On the iPhone and the iPod Touch you
>>> have VO gestures for the rotor to change modes for input and also to
>>> use for navigation.  Although you do your typing on the virtual
>>> keyboard, and use gestures for the other touch screen functions, I
>>> can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on
>>> a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle
>>> some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch
>>> screen.  That would really be clunky!  On the other hand, one of the
>>> current limitations with using VoiceOver on the iPhone or iPod Touch
>>> is that you can't use find or move to an arbitrary position in a
>>> document or a web page, You can flick through links etc. but you can't
>>> move to an arbitrary position based on a context search. It would
>>> really be nice if features like these could be added.  One of the
>>> things that would make reading eBooks more convenient with VO would be
>>> general bookmarking of specific locations within pages on the device.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Now that the reviews have been released it turns out the iPad's
>>>> bluetooth supports using Apple's real wireless keyboard. I think in
>>>> past posts there were some questions about using an external
>>>> keyboard. I wonder if this means VO keyboard commands will work or
>>>> is it only for typing in text?
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>> 
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