hi i don't have eny problems using facebook btw I only use the moble site. 
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Everett,
> 
> I agree 100%.  And, I would add that it isn't fair that Apple should have to 
> deal with other developers' sloppy design.  That said I do think it's in 
> Apple's best interest to do so.  Personally, I'd love to see more blind users 
> switch to the Mac, but it's hard to make that argument in a convincing way if 
> you also have to tell them, "Well,  You'll love using your Mac, but it will 
> probably be an extension of your PC, rather than replacing it."  Given the 
> cost of a Mac, that doesn't make for a very compelling argument to switch. :)
> 
> I also think that if Apple wants to present VO as giving out-of-the-box 
> accessibility, having a glitch like that on a site as popular as Facebook 
> detracts from that claim.
> Just my $.02.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:04 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
> 
>> On 2010-03-15, at 9:05 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Your point about Facebook and web standards is well-taken, but 
>>> Facebook--whether they follow web standards or not--is a very widely used 
>>> site.  For me right now, this is just one more thing that my Mac can't do 
>>> that my PC can.  The more things like that that are out there, the less 
>>> likely it is that the Mac can take the place of the PC.
>> 
>> * Good morning Donna,
>> 
>> I definitely understand your point of view, and I share it in part.  The 
>> reason that some technologies work better with assistive technologies on 
>> Windows than on the Mac, not speaking about Facebook in particular, is 
>> because assistive technology vendors for Windows accommodate application and 
>> web development techniques that don't follow standards.  The Apple approach, 
>> which has annoyed me more often than not, is to not accommodate these poorly 
>> written applications and web-sites.  Arguably the owness for making an 
>> application accessible is that of the developer, and not of the assistive 
>> technology vendor, however, this means that some things will be poorly 
>> accessible, since generally speaking developers don't really tend to 
>> understand accessibility, or standards in general, very well.
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